This is a discussion on Ultra compact 40 cal within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; You might want take a look at the Smith & Wesson M&P 40 compact. I don't own one, but I've only read very favorable reviews ...
You might want take a look at the Smith & Wesson M&P 40 compact. I don't own one, but I've only read very favorable reviews on this gun. Seems to cost just a bit less than a Glock and Smith often runs rebate sales. It's high on my wish list.
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Look for a Kel-Tec P40, the .40 cal version of the P11. Like this
Kel Tec P40 Box Papers 40 S&W : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com
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Did they have a Kahr CW40? It's priced alot lower than the "regular" line of Kahrs. It is very slim and compact, and priced about the same as the other "main" makes. (around $450 here)
I'm just saying this because you seem to like the Kahrs. I have a CW9, and it has performed flawlessly. I'm not a big fan of the Kahr trigger, but that's just my personal preference. Can't knock the gun, it does what it is supposed to do.
Like jwhite75 said, get that P40, if you can. I use the Kahr 16oz PM40 as a BUG to my 23oz IWB 45, because it's the only 40 that slips into my jeans off hand back pocket. The Kahr trigger is worth the extra $$ over the bigger Kel-Tec. If money and recoil are issues, consider the Kel-Tec PF9. I think Kahr has or soon will come out with a cheaper CW version of the 40 in the same size as the PM40. Did I mention how snappy the PM40 is?
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You didn't give your price range, but in looking at Kahrs, did you check the CW40? Not too bad a price and a decent weapon. Already mentioned is the Glock 27. Were it me, I wouldn't let price drive my decision if this is a carry weapon. Save your money and buy good quality. Keep a look out for used pistols to same a little-there are always good deals floating around.
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They're not in production anymore, but you might be able to find a used S&W 4013. Very compact and lightweight. Should be inexpensive used. Mine works like a charm, I've had it many years and love it.
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Although I would surely not call it ultra compact, I am really really surprised at how slim the XD 40 feels after wearing one for a few days. The Glock 19 feels like a checker cab compared to it. The XD 40 grip just feels slim - it's longer but it has this nothingness skinny feel to it.
The blocky head part seems just as clunky as the Glock so no real gain there. The spare mag however is noticeably slimmer too.
And 13 plus 12 rounds! I'd check out this gun, try them on. p.s. the Springfield website is pretty crummy, if you are looking for specs go elsewhere.
Don't have one myself, but thought I'd through out the CZ Rami since it comes in that flavor as well. Lots of different options to boot as far as frame materials, de-cockers, etc.
The CM40 ought to be the same size as the PM40, but will probably sell for about $450 (around the same as the CM9 is going for).
the Glock 27 would be a good bet. You can use the G23 and G22 mags for reloads. I carry a G30 in 45 everyday and it's wider. My friend really likes his HK P2000sk. That's a pretty compact and slim to me 40.
I would go for the Glock 27. It is a very nice gun.
If you want "ULTRA" compact, as you state in the title, then it really boils down to a single stack. That eliminates everything listed but the Kahrs, Walther PPS, and Taurus PT740. It just depends on what your definition of ultra compact is. I have a XD40sc and I really like it, shoot it very well, and it isn't difficult to carry...but I would not describe it as "ULTRA" compact.
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