So you think the SA TRP is better eh? Well, lets see...
I was so perturbed about the SW1911TA issues I posted about that when Shooters Depot offered me within $200 of what I had in the S&W, I couldn’t pass up the opportunity. I traded for a SA TRP.
I’m just gonna say this out loud and up front, I really don't see what all the excitement over SA is about. And talk about over-priced. I mean I’m sure it’s a good gun, but I really don’t see anything exceptional about it, but nonetheless I am going to say some good things about it.
right side by ron.0000, on Flickr
left side plus mag by ron.0000, on Flickr
I shot 100 rounds through it without a single problem. That’s not a lot of shooting of course, but it’s good that right out of the box, it had no problems in the first 100 rounds.
From handling and shooting it, it seems to feed rounds really well and positive.
The ambi thumb safety is nothing special but it has a good snick on and off. I think it’s a bit heavy on the down stroke and may adjust that a bit.
And it’s accurate, as you’ll see shortly. Even though the trigger breaks at 6 lbs, it is a very clean break and that helps some to compensate for the heavy pull. The hammer is a really skeletonized which will provide a comparatively fast lock time.
And it’s pretty in a tactical way. Speaking of tactical, I love the grip. The front strap is just a bit aggressive. It has 20 lpi checkering and if you were to shoot this enough, say at a school or just a lot in a session, I have no doubt you’d feel it before long. Most have 30 lpi on the front strap which is probably about as good without the bite over time. But, having said that, from a tactical sense, I like the front strap on the TRP. In a SD situation it will provide and outstanding purchase on the pistol and in a SD situation you won’t be shooting enough to make your hand raw. So plus one for the front strap.
The MSH, is checked at 30 lpi. I guess they figure you don’t need as much grip there?? Ahhhh, and the grips – outstanding grip to them. Not too aggressive but very grippy – another plus for the TRP.
I like mag chutes; they’re tactical and gamey. They aren’t for everyone, but the TRP comes with one and I like them; they really don’t add that much size to the gun. A full-size 1911 is already big.
It comes with Trijicon NS in a Novak format and again I for the life of me can’t figure out what all the ado is about Novak sights. The rear sight is made wrong for tactical purposes. Oh, I know, the ‘no-snag’ is played up, but that’s about as deep as a sheet of paper. There’s no way you can use the rear sight to rack the slide with one hand.
The TRP has a full-length guide rod and whether you approve or not, that’s what it comes with, and this particular design is horrible. You have to have an allen wrench to remove the guide rod. If you can’t remove the guide rod, field stripping is gonna be a chore. I believe it could be done, but it wouldn’t be pleasant or easy.
Ok, lets go a little deeper. If you think Kimbers are over-priced, you just met your match. My Tactical Pro Kimbers have everything the TRP does – everything, and the Tactical Pro with Al frame goes for $1089 and the TRP for $310 more. And I didn’t have to finish the parts in my Kimbers. Yeah, that’s coming – about two hours of work to get the inside of the TRP right. And lots of pics to prove the point.
If I may interject this here, I’ve seen the insides of three Kimbers, a S&W E series, and one of SA’s best, the TRP, and I’m here to say Kimber beats them all by far, it’s not even close in fit and finish work. All the work I did on my S&W and on this SA TRP was already done on all three of my Kimbers, right up to bevels on the disconnector spring leaf.
Ok, for the pretty pics. Realize this is really small stuff and very hard to get a good focus on, but hopefully good enough for our purposes.
First, the rear of the trigger bow - not bad, but still scored. This is caused by the sharp edges of the disconnector that contact the trigger bow:
rear of trigger bow by ron.0000, on Flickr
I did polish this up a bit, but didn't make a pic of the end result.
Next the disconnector, first the side that contacts the trigger bow:
trigger bow side of disconnector by ron.0000, on Flickr
bow face of disconnector with polish started by ron.0000, on Flickr
and finished (but not cleaned up yet :embarassed: ) :
polished disconnector - bow side by ron.0000, on Flickr
This didn't turn out so good - hard to get the camera to focus on the tips of the spring, but here's the spring leafs, esp. the disconnector leaf. The problem is, it's neither beveled, rolled, or polished.
spring as found by ron.0000, on Flickr
I did the work on it - took a while, but the pic didn't turn out in focus so I don't have a pic of the finished product.
Next is the slide edge that contacts the disconnector. I had to polish the disconnector face that contacts this point as well. Here's what it looked like. And notice all the machining marks.
Slide - disconnector run - as found by ron.0000, on Flickr
I went pretty light on this, but the edge is rolled a bit and it is polished:
disconnector run broken and polished by ron.0000, on Flickr
The main spring is not captured and has some big conglomeration of a hammer strut cap…never seen anything like it. I presume it’s part of the ‘safety lock’ system. You suppose we have to pay extra for that? Kimber doesn’t have that you know.
The top of the trigger had machine marks on it, small ones, but there. I polished them out.
After it was all done, and I'm not saying I'm finished, but close, the trigger pull weight dropped from a touch over 6 lbs to 5-1/8 lbs. Right at a lb lighter by just finishing the gun as SA should have. I will take it down to 4 lbs tomorrow.
Even at 6 lbs, the gun is a shooter. Here's some pics. These were after I got warmed up to the gun a bit.
Here's three shots @ 7 yds:
3 shots 7 yds #2 by ron.0000, on Flickr
here's 5 shots on another target @ 7 yds. The Shoot-n-C (black and yellow target) was at 15 yds. It wasn't bad, but I had pretty much lost focus by then:
Five shots a 7 yds by ron.0000, on Flickr
Last two pics in the next post.