Weapon lights on Carry pistols/Home defense pistol

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    Weapon lights on Carry pistols/Home defense pistol

    Who here has a weapon light on their carry pistol or home defense pistol. Thinking of purchasing a TLR-1 for my pistol and want to know your thoughts.

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    ...whatever the light is illuminating the muzzle is pointing at.

    anyone else live in the house?
    visiting? your toddlers or company with theirs--that you are perhaps pointing a gun at...are those children

    learn to hold the light in your weak side hand and to point the light independent of the muzzle.
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    I voted wrong..Mis-read it. I have no weapons mounted lights. If it hits the fan at home, I do not want to point my weapon at the kids. Just my way of doing it.
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    While I keep a flashlight with my nightstand gun, it is not mounted on it. As to a light mounted on a carry gun, I don't and wouldn't. It's hard enough to find a good holster for a gun, let alone trying to find one for a gun with one of dozens of make lights and lasers available.
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    All are great points! Thanks for your feed back.

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    I have a handheld light, gives me more control.

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    While there may be situations where a handgun mounted light is appropriate, I don't believe they apply to me so I don't use them. I keep both a small (6Z) and large (SL20) lights next to the bed.

    With the home invasions frequently involving more than one intruder, here is an example of an advantage of a non-weapon mounted light. You confront two armed intruders in your home with a light mounted handgun. You shoot one and then the other, hopefully while moving. The second intruder is uninhibited until you shoot him. With a non-weapon mounted light, you can blind one intruder while shooting the other using the "splash" of the light. A small advantage, none the less a real one.
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    I do have a light on my HD gun, but also have a hand held light beside it also. Also have a light on my AK. When the AK or 870 are picked up a to go bag is slung onto my sholder also. In that bag is a hand held light along with extra ammo for both guns and a extra mag for the XD. I can see the need and use for both, if you don't have it you can't use it.
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    I have a light mounted on the shotgun. Given the seriousness of a round of #1 Buck hitting somebody, I really want to be sure of my target. A secondary consideration is the power of the 300-lumen light. As a test, I stood 6 feet away from a mirror and shined the light at it.

    It was about 24 hours before my vision returned to normal. The power of the light makes it a weapon in and of itself.

    The handguns are different things. I have tactical flashlights in both white and red spectra, and those would be used off-hand in the event I'm going that way. But basically, the idea of mounting a flashlight to a handgun seems like too much forward-loading one's strategy.
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    Along with the other examples of why not to carry a light, I would like to give another reason that I voted no light. A light gives away your position to everyone and tells them where you are looking and pointing. In my opinion nobody needs to know that. In the case of multiple BGs that turns from a bad idea to a REALLY bad idea.

    As for my home at night, I do leave nightlights so it is not so dark that I can't identify my targets, therefore not needing a light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by claude clay View Post
    ...whatever the light is illuminating the muzzle is pointing at.
    I am yet to see a handgun with a shot pattern that's 6 feet wide 10 feet down the hallway, it's a flashlight not a laser: it's a cone of light not a line. If you train to scan with the peripheral then it's not an issue (curiosity of a bump in the night doesn't come close to an adrenaline dump or tunnel vision for me), if you use it in combination with a handheld light, it's not an issue.

    A flashlight is just as prone to failure as a handgun or magazine, same can be said for batteries; to have a spare light, or backup on the gun, is a natural precaution in my opinion. I think of it the same manner as having a laser on a self defense firearm, when used right and trained to be capable to go without it can be a great enhancement to home defense or if you can find the right holster, personal carry. And you don't have to use a weapon mounted light exclusively on the weapon either, making carry easier if you can't find a holster that combines both. Many of the current weapon lights are made to be added and removed in a hurry.

    I'd say that if you've got a handheld light in place that you can work with then go ahead and add a weapon mounted light. After you do that also look at training options in your area and find a class that deals with low light and nighttime and flashlight handling techniques, that will also cover the use of a weapon mounted light. My subcompact doesn't have a rail for a light so I'm going to keep from voting, but as soon as I add a compact or full size firearm to compliment it, I'll be adding weapon mounted light.

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    My Insight weapon mounted light works perfectly for me. when its pointed down, towards the floor, it lights up an entire room.
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    I like my light seperate from my weapon for many of the various reasons mentioned above, especially the fact that I don't point my gun at things or people that aren't on my list of things to destroy.

    I recently purchased a 220 lumens flashlight at Gander Mountain and was blown away by the light out put. Only paid 39.99 + tax. I'm just wandering how long it will last? So far 1 month and still going strong with light use of a 10 mins or so a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJD1968 View Post
    Along with the other examples of why not to carry a light, I would like to give another reason that I voted no light. A light gives away your position to everyone and tells them where you are looking and pointing. In my opinion nobody needs to know that. In the case of multiple BGs that turns from a bad idea to a REALLY bad idea.

    As for my home at night, I do leave nightlights so it is not so dark that I can't identify my targets, therefore not needing a light.
    How well do your nightlights work when there is no power? No electricity, no lights, no target identification.

    Why does it have to be all or nothing? I have both weapon-mounted lights and handhelds. What will you do when you only have one hand to manipulate your light and gun? Realistically, you will need to open a door, you are pushing the wife or kids to cover, or you are holding the baby in your off hand, what are you going to do? Use a lanyard? So your light is now swinging around on your wrist and you are in the dark, now what?

    As far as keeping a light in your off hand versus weapon-mounted, how much difference will it REALLY make masking your position? It's not as if you are turning the light on and leaving it on as you stumble around the house, is it? Light on, look, light off, move.

    Archer, Blade Tech, for one, will make you a holster for just about any combo you can think of. Like a pre-rail G-21 with a mounted Surefire P101? Last I looked, Tex Shoemaker will make a one off holster if you provide the specs.

    Shockwave, you are absolutely correct that a light can be a weapon in and of itself. I've had people drop everything and fall on the ground with a flash in the eyes of a good light. In the field I had a weapon mounted light, a rechargeable Surefire or Stinger for every day or night use, and a lithium Surefire on my belt in case the rechargeable died. Both lights together weigh a lot less than a Mag-light.

    I'm not flaming, really. The most likely scenario most of us will face is a power outage. My mom was without power intermittently for over 2 weeks when a windstorm knocked out some of the main power feeds, in fact the entire county was experiencing the same thing. There was a commotion in my yard after dark, my shotgun light allowed me to ID if it was my dog or a coyote (turned out it was a 'dillo my dog wanted to eat). Same thing happened to my wife when I wasn't home and she used my 686 without a light and tried to shoot a coyote killing one of our puppies by starlight. She missed, it ran away, and the puppy died.

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