I am thinking of getting a S&W 329pd. I was wondering if anyone had one, and if they could shoot it without wincing? I wouldn’t be carrying it all the time just when I am out in the ever increasing bear/hog/angry moose country. The gun is only 26 oz. and packs a .44 mag coming out of a 4in barrel. Should I go with the scandium frame or stick with the reliable SS. I have never had the opportunity of fire a .44 but I do have a .357 mag the weights 11 oz and that has some punch to it. Thanks for the insight.
I am fine with recoil in powerful handguns with weight but not lightweights!
Even more important IMO is when the gun is for SD and then I honestly think too light is counter productive. Many might say - well, you may only have to shoot two or three shots, but practice is needed too and follow-up should not be a chore - it should be brisk and easy.
Too much pain, flip, flash etc - and I think this all helps negate the potential of hot loads. So much so that accuracy is likely to suffer too - and then what use are the hot loads!
For true mag loads in .44 SS is way I would go. Or if lightweight then .44 spl loads as max.
I was just going to post a question like this.. I just came from the gunshow yesterday.. my gf got the auto.. ANYHOW.
i saw some sweet .357 mag revos yesterday but they were so light.. i dont know the material used .. its metal, but superlightweight. i contemplated and decided against it due to its weight. Dont get me wrong the weight of this thing amazed me... but I didnt like the fact that I would probably have much more recoil than ever experienced w/ 357 mag. Not that i was afraid of it, just seemed to counterbalance the usefullness of the gun. In the chance that I miss the guy, i dont want to have to struggle for the second shot, or third, or any consecutive shots after.
Am interested in a very light revo for carry at the huntin'/shootin' club for ease of carry.
For a CCW the light weight is counter productive for the reasons mentioned above. Not so much the out & out recoil in pounds,but the recoil velocity and the bbl "whip". This makes for follow up shots that are (mostly) nonexistant. Something that I cannot double tap is completely useless for carry for me.
For our purposes(CCW) ..........this is NOT a good thing.--------
I have a 638 Airweight +P .38. About the biggest caliber I find I can really control well in a lightweight frame. I can rapidly empty the 5 rounds with Gold Dots and make them all hit CM at defense ranges but just barely. In .357 and above it's going to be a steel frame for sure! Recoil it's self never bothered me, to a point it can be fun to shoot, but for defense against 2 or 4 footed problems those fast followups can sure mean alot!
Well, you're obviously well-versed in the reasons why larger calibers are paired with heavier guns. I've got a SW 442 Airweight snubbie, myself, and even in .38SPL it can be a handful beyond 7yds.
If you're going up against moose, boar and the like, you've got one or two shots to stop the charge. I'd think you'd want the most energy possible on that target: .44 mag minimum, if not .454 casull, .480 ruger or larger. The operative phrase being: on target. Heft, barrel length, grip, strength/conditioning ... all of these play into accuracy with a larger weapon. I can handle a .44m in a ~48oz revolver with 6" barrel reasonably accurately, but I have yet to fire a .454 or .480 of any sort. Depends on what mix works for you.
I think the 44special loads would be cool in it. I'd shoot full power loads personally but I have some sort of sickness for recoil. I've never shot a gun that kicks too hard. Yea I know - Im weird.
For Angry Bear & Wild Hog & Pi$$ed Off Moose I would absolutely go with the heavier frame firearm for quicker (more effective) shot to shot recovery & carry the hottest, heaviest rounds that are available.
While heavier to pack around...the extra weight will be comforting.
Stick with the heavier firearm in Stainless & these days there is so much "Stuff" out there that it's pretty easy to lighten up your other gear to help compenstate for the heavier firearm.
Go with the heavier gun.As said before you'll not get a second quick shot with the light gun.I have no problem at all with recoil,but muzzle jump can be a b.....Don't even consider this for personal defense.If you were to use this at night you would probably be blinded by the blast.
So the general consensus is that I should get something with some heft behind it. Thanks for the impute, Now that I am (probably) not going ultra light how about a S&W 500 with a 4in barrel? Decisions decisions
So the general consensus is that I should get something with some heft behind it. Thanks for the impute, Now that I am (probably) not going ultra light how about a S&W 500 with a 4in barrel? Decisions decisions
Well, everyone is different. Fitting your hand is one-third of the battle. Fitting your carry/draw/shooting style is another third. And, reliability, concealability, price and a few other minor factors are probably the remaining third. You can't perforate what you can't hit. You can't use what you don't or won't carry. You can't win/survive if you don't become competent and effective with the gun ... and that's influenced by a number of factors. It might take a few shots at a few different guns, but what suits you will feel right.
Me, I prefer a bit of size but relatively light weight. Browning BDM 9mm @ 31oz unloaded; CZ P01 @ 28oz; then a backup gun (BUG) at about half that number and one-third the size. Compare to full- or mid-size 1911 style autos @ 36oz+, with heavy ammo and all of the attendant concealability impacts. Same pattern applied to when I shot a few .44mag runs. Invariably, it was the larger but lighter variety that felt best to me. Go figure.
Of course, you're talking about .44mag, .454 Casull or .480 Ruger. At that level, a bit more heft can definitely help tame the kick. Same issues apply regarding impact on ability to hit the target, accurate hit with follow-on shots, etc. Particularly important with game that can eat or trample you.
This gun will not be for CC, For that I prefer my Kimber CDP compact with a Colt pocketsize as a BUG. This is strictly for shooting at home and carrying in the woods. I do not flinch (to the best of my knowledge) and recoil can be gotten used to with anything I have shot. Although I have not had any time with a big bore pistol. I am just looking for some feed back on how these high power hand canons siz up to each other and in the hands of a 160 lb guy.
I think the 44special loads would be cool in it. I'd shoot full power loads personally but I have some sort of sickness for recoil. I've never shot a gun that kicks too hard. Yea I know - Im weird.
Not weird at all....
I suffer from the same affliction.... I also believe that in an actual shooting recoil would never be felt, however control may be a factor... whenever firing a a kicker, the mantra is "squeeze the grips untill they drip..."
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