This is a discussion on Ruger LC9 Review - and why I sold it within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Sorry to hear the LC9 did not work out for you. I bought one earlier this year and had to send it back after the ...
Sorry to hear the LC9 did not work out for you. I bought one earlier this year and had to send it back after the 1st range session. Ruger repaired it and had it back to me in 2 weeks.
I'll admit the first time I shot it I was all over the target. I carry Glocks so I'm more used to shooting lighter triggers on striker fired guns. Like some others have said here, it took some time to get used to the long double action trigger.
I have since become very comfortable with the LC9 and have carried it almost exclusively as my pocket pistola during the hot summer weather. I added a small Hogue slip-on grip that made a huge difference in how the gun feels...it also helps to cushion some of the recoil. Mine is staying!
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His son took over in 2000 until about 2006. mike Fifer took over after that, no more Ruger family influence and pretty much changed the face of the company. So all the people who "hate" Bill Ruger..... have a legitimate beef due to what I call his unacceptable compromise.....
I purchased and LC9several weeks ago, have shot about 150 rounds and here is my expereince:
(1) Back sight came loose second time at range...after a while identified the problem and fixed it.
(2) The slide stop does not work. After about 150 rounds the slide stop will sometimes release and more often will not release the action under any circumstance regrdless of how hard you may push.
(3) Second time I went to clean the gun the take down plate that you have to slide down to release the pin so that you can disassemble the gun would no longer release and so I cannot diassemble the gun to clean it.
(2) great size
(3) dependable thus far with no misfires
Will keep this thread posted as to my experience with Ruger on the send back. I will be very disspointed if they make me pay the $60 plus dollars shipping for a brand new gun that is a lemon out of the box?
I have an LC9 and while I agree with many of the complaints about the gun, I do have some comments of my own. The trigger is definitely improved if the magazine disconnect is removed. I never touch the external safety. I never used the external safeties on any of the DA/SA autos I've used over the years, except when it also acted as a decocker. Just because the safety is there, it doesn't mean you have to use it. The grip is skinny and it adds to the discomforting feel of the gun to me and it sounds like many others. I typically add a couple of wraps of rescue tape to most of my grips. The LC9 called for more than a few to improve the grip. The LC9 does what it's intended purpose is as far as I can see. I see it as a pocket gun with intended range to be 12 ft or less. Like the LCP, 442/642 and many others, an arms reach gun.
As for accuracy, I don't have any personal standard for paper punching accuracy. For defensive pistols, 3" or 4" groups at 10-20 yds. are of no concern to me. I never had time to get into the proper stance and carefully regulate the trigger to produce a small tight group, when someone was shooting, or pointing, a gun at me. I consider accuracy to be putting 5 or 6 shots in a 9" paper plate at 7yds (20ft) max, from a 'ready position' in 2 seconds or less.
Overall, I'm still up in the air about the LC9. It has it's flaws, it has good points and like all guns it has it's idiosyncrasies. I've shot worse and I've shot a lot better, but for me, right now, it fills a gap in my arsenal.
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OMG - ditto, ditto, ditto!
- Sights - the gun has good sights and if you can maintain sight alignment through the long trigger pull, it is an accurate gun.
Mag release safety - ***? Did not know when I got mine - it's a Cali-legal. WHY? So LEOs can assume if no mag in the well the gun is a (small) brick not a firearm. If you do a tactical mag change and one is still in the chamber and you have a BG pop up you can't turn and shoot him. OTOH, if you're wrestling for a gun (Lima), and can drop the Mag the BG can't shoot you, though he could smack you in the temple with it, lol.
I tried the trigger on the CM9 - holy-moly - it's nice. It's got a metal guide rod - sweet. The LC9 muzzle flip and long pull trigger are a beyotch to learn. Not all SD gun owners can become 10-ring shooters. Think about it guys and gals. If I have to send 500-1000 rounds through the gun at $15/50 rounds, that's $300 bucks.
Anyway, good thread. Boo - Ruger.
Last edited by Brian123; August 24th, 2011 at 11:23 PM.
One thing to add that is kinda off target, but I saw it mentioned. Not every gun is for everyone, but if you want to buy a gun from a company that will stand behind it's product 100% with, hands down, the best customer service in the industry, buy a RUGER! they will go above and beyond what any, and from experience I mean ANY, gun company will do to keep their customers happy and loyal. If you have a problem on a gun you bought 20 years ago they will treat your problem like you bought it yesterday. While not all ruger models are for everyone, I have not met one person who didn't wish that all manufacturers customer service depts were the same as Rugers!
I sold my LC9 as well, and had about the same experience as the OP. The gun was completely reliable through about 500 rounds of varied ammo. It was the trigger that ultimately led me to get rid of it. I never could get a level of accuracy that I felt was sufficient for a self defense weapon. I am a Ruger fan, but that gun just wasn't for me.
'As for accuracy, I don't have any personal standard for paper punching accuracy. For defensive pistols, 3" or 4" groups at 10-20 yds. are of no concern to me. I never had time to get into the proper stance and carefully regulate the trigger to produce a small tight group, when someone was shooting, or pointing, a gun at me. I consider accuracy to be putting 5 or 6 shots in a 9" paper plate at 7yds (20ft) max, from a 'ready position' in 2 seconds or less."
I absolutely agree. I know this may seem like heresy to many on this board, but for purely defensive shooting, accuracy, or more properly, precision, is an overvalued virtue. Depending on whose stats you read, the typical gunfight (over 80%) takes place within less than ten feet. (See Mann, "Modern Day Gunslinger") i think we sometimes confuse precision with accuracy. For defensive shooting, precision is not the primary virtue, accuracy is. By precision I am referring to that nice tight group at 10 to 20 yards. Combat accuracy is sometimes defined as an eight inch "group" at 21 feet. I have numerous handguns that I use for precision/competition shooting. My CCW is designed to stop the immediate close quarters threat. In my opinion, if you are shooting a two to three inch group at say 7 yards, you are shooting too slowly and need to work on your speed. Flame suit on.
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