Mea culpa...

Mea culpa...

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    Mea culpa...



    That's my G17. Was my G17. It has wear marks under the 1st finger groove from my class ring. For a short time it had blood on it from me whacking my elbow against some skateboard tape I had on the grip while chasing a felon. The near medieval texture had was a nice way to keep my calluses under control. Alas, now it's gone.

    At the beginning of my foray into pistol shooting, I blindly parroted all the BS you hear about glocks, the trigger sucks, the grip is uncomfortable, they point high, the list goes on. Run through Various CZs and M&Ps, then flash forward to getting hired on at a PD where my choices were Beretta, Sig, or glock in 9mm, .357 sig or .40, ora Kimber 1911. I whined, I moaned, I bought a gen 4 G17, and a funny thing happened. I realized this was going to be a gun that might be responsible for saving lives, and I practiced. Suddenly, that trigger was easy to work. The gun pointed naturally because most guns will when you do a hundred or so presentations a day for a few weeks. Ringing steel at 150yds offhand? No problem.

    Then I changed careers and along came a sexy HK P30S v3 and away went an ugly G17 with some holster wear and a G19 I never really warmed to. After numerous range trips, lost of carry time and copious amounts of dry practice, I simply don't shoot the HK as well. The P30 has a more comfy grip. The paddle mag release is outta this world good compared to even the most well thought out button release, and I don't think a more durable pistol exists. All that doesn't mean much in the face of results, and the cold truth is I have to work much harder with the P30 to approach what I could do with the G17.

    I don't really know what I was going for with this post, but it's an odd feeling to realize the "best" (HK)...isn't(for me).
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    Been there, done that. For me it was a Pre-series 80 Colt Combat Commander that I sold to finance a Sig 220 SAO. Should have just kept the Colt. It's pretty much the only gun I've sold that I miss. The good news is that you could move the P30 and get another Glock and have $$$ left over to redress it accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    Been there, done that. For me it was a Pre-series 80 Colt Combat Commander that I sold to finance a Sig 220 SAO. Should have just kept the Colt. It's pretty much the only gun I've sold that I miss. The good news is that you could move the P30 and get another Glock and have $$$ left over to redress it accordingly.
    That's plan B. I've got a message out to the guy I sold the pictured gun to with an offer to buy it back for what he paid plus some $ for his troubles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texag View Post
    That's plan B. I've got a message out to the guy I sold the pictured gun to with an offer to buy it back for what he paid plus some $ for his troubles.
    Too bad I've sated my gun bug for the next few months or I'd buy your P30.

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    It's already destined for the holster of a good friend. I like to keep tabs on my former wards.

    ETA: The buyer for the pictured G17 got back to me and said he hasn't even fired it and will sell it back to me. Today is off to a good start.
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    I'm with you.

    I was not a fan of glocks, period. I yammered about grip angle. I yammered about unsupported chambers. I yammered about triggers.

    Then I got one, and found out that they really do shoot great for me.

    But still, I didn't want to like them. So I tried XD's. I tried M&P's. I already had a USP. And yet...the Glock worked better than all of 'em.

    So...yeah. For polymer, the Glock simply is the best choice for me, and I've learned to embrace it.

    I still shoot P7's and 1911's better, though.
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    To each his own!! Glad to hear your long lost buddy is coming home!! Shame you already found a home for the P30 -- I have been on the lookout for one!
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    Same thing happened to me, I have three Glock .40s & bought an HK P30 because it has to be better, right?
    Well, I can't shoot the HK anywhere near as good as the Glocks, & I don't know why (luckily I did not sell any of the Glocks).

    I do have an HK .45 USP Tactical that is awesome though!
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    Texag it is harder to unlearn a behavior than it is to learn a behavior.
    You trained yourself on one firearm & since you learned it inside & out you are having a natural hiccup in the other. I learned on PCs, naturally I hate Macs...

    I can shoot Glocks well, I just do not like them. Most of the things you stated above are the reasons why but the trigger tends to cut into my index finger something awful. Believe me, I have tried to like Glocks, I just don't. I am glad it is all working well for you in the end.
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    Well glad that seems to be working out for you. It's a good day indeed.
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    I've always considered the Glocks as "different," not "bad." I don't love have any particular love for my G30. The grip on my G30 isn't perfect, I don't think the trigger is the best in the world, I don't think it will ever have "classic lines" like a 1911; it just does everything I ask of it.

    I probably should love it more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 357and40 View Post
    Texag it is harder to unlearn a behavior than it is to learn a behavior.
    You trained yourself on one firearm & since you learned it inside & out you are having a natural hiccup in the other. I learned on PCs, naturally I hate Macs...

    I can shoot Glocks well, I just do not like them. Most of the things you stated above are the reasons why but the trigger tends to cut into my index finger something awful. Believe me, I have tried to like Glocks, I just don't. I am glad it is all working well for you in the end.
    That's what I chalked my initial difficulty with the P30 up to, but after a decent amount downrange and tons of dry practice it wasn't getting much better, especially when trying to shoot quickly and accurately.

    I will be buying my G17 back tomorrow. The workday is going to go slowly.
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