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    I will not outtun my partner> I will engage the bear as that is what the Creator designed me to do.. I know you where all kidding. or not? bear spray > I purchased it and used on my dog several years ago> he just licked his nose and looked annoyed at me. yes it was the bear spray.. 10% but you can read this also Pepper Spray Works, But Don't Bet Your Life On It, Alaska Science Forum

    A bear, well I did face off with a big black in New mexico. it ran off. all I have was my 10mm.. theya re fast once they get going.. I wasnt scared but a brown is a different story.


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    So now, as I see it, in this order: 1. Bear spray 2. Shotgun with slugs 3. Carbine 45-70 4. Handgun - S&W 500 et.al.
    And, if that doesn't work, there's always #5:

    Alaska Woman Punches Bear In Snout To Save Dog | FoxNews.com
    "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Eccl. 10:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by vstromrider View Post
    I was surprised that this bothered me. Just my take but, "Let's see if my mega-quasi-bad-a$$ twenty pound pistol can kill a bear. Well, whaddaya know, it can!"
    "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Eccl. 10:2

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    I haven't read all the responses, but I'd just like to add that hiking in grizzly country is not to be taken lightly. I would definitely carry a large caliber handgun as a backup, but I consider a 30-06 or 12 gauge the bare minimum. .338 win mag or 10 gauge would be ideal. I hear mixed things about bear spray. I can tell you that pepper spray for humans works quite well, but I wouldn't trust it for a bear.

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    Unfortunately, the choice of deterrent/weapon is sometimes limited by outside authority.
    "I do what I do." Cpl 'coach' Bowden, "Southern Comfort".

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    Shoot a BG threatening you with a weapon and you will have a bad few days then it's over. Shoot a Grizzly and there will be huge issues with the DNR as they are protected. fines and repercussions will go on for ever. After all the Grizzly was not armed and just doing what Grizzly's do. Best defense is to be able to run faster than the person with you.
    I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.

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    To say that a grizzly is unarmed is a misnomer, to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guantes View Post
    To say that a grizzly is unarmed is a misnomer, to say the least.
    I agree but do not work for the DNR either.
    I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.

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    We have a case going on, on this up here now. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guantes View Post
    We have a case going on, on this up here now. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.
    Probably a $2,500 fine lose or rights to own a gun to hunt or to fish for 10 years. Will wish he had shot a BG instead.
    I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.

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    We'll see, he has legislators and the governor supporting him.
    "I do what I do." Cpl 'coach' Bowden, "Southern Comfort".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guantes View Post
    We'll see, he has legislators and the governor supporting him.
    Thats good to hear. I backpack in northern Colorado and have talked to Game Wardens. Response I recvd was you better be bleeding and in the hospital from the event if you shoot a bear. I hope it all works out for him and his family.

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    In Montana it is said that if you must kill a grizzly in self defense, you best have claw wounds on yourself.

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    Hiking in Glacier National Park, the Ranger says, "What's that on your hip?". I respond, "A .357 magnum." She replies, "You should have brought something bigger."

    And that, friends, reminds me of my honeymoon.
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    Made my first trip to Yellowstone for two weeks in the middle of this past July. Quite a beautiful place, but also a place that is full of naive tourists in cars and hikers out in the backcountry. Didn't hike because I was alone and didn't know the area, but did get out on a few trail rides just to see the backcountry. I did see two grizzly. One was in Lamar Valley and he was a small pre-adult that got within 100 yds of the road. The other sighting scared the crap out of me even though I was in the car. I was driving north and saw a bear jam blocking both sides of the road about 3 miles north of Ol Faithful. I pulled up and stopped short about 100 feet from the other cars, when all of a sudden people start running for their cars. I grabbed my camera and saw this big boer galloping up the trail from a stream he had just crossed. As he hit the road at full speed, I snapped a picture. He then made a beeline for my car under a full head of steam. I dropped my camera out of pure fright. He was 20 feet in front of my car in a second or two, then turned on a dime and galloped up the trail on the other side. Trust me when I tell you, you would have very little chance to pull out any kind of a gun just from the speed and quickness of this beast and a failure to react from being terrified. I have seen two video's where experienced backcountry people had a chance to fire a .357 just before the mother bear reached them. They were very lucky it turned the bear around. I have also read where a man in Alaska was waiting for a float plane to pick him up in the wilderness, and was charged and attacked. He fired a .357 also, but this was a male boar and he ignored the shot and proceeded to bite him while he played dead. The bear left but was still 100 yds away when he made the mistake of getting up on his knees. The bear returned and the man fired again and the bear ignored the shot and mauled him again as he played dead. He survived and was later rescued by the pilot.

    Talking with a bear expert at a grizzly attraction just outside Bozeman, he told me that most Grizzly attacks happen within 15 ft. They make bear beds under a thatch of trees for shade to nurse cubs or snooze during the day. Or you can surprise them near a running stream or feeding on a kill.

    I plan on going to Glacier next year and doing some hiking, and I will probably be carrying my 4" Mountain Gun as a last resort. I've also contemplated the purchase of the Governor 410/45 as a substitute. There is something about #8 or #9 birdshot to the face, if given the opportunity in a close encounter attack that somehow appeals to me over having to place a perfect shot with a bullet. I plan to also buy either bear spray or a marine flare (15000 lumens) as a first option.

    Since I will be going alone, I will try and hook up with people before hiking but I was thinking what if no one comes by. No laughter please, but I thought about buying some head & face protection (ala hockey helmet & clear full faceshield), along with a neck collar. The backcountry is beautiful in these parks and I find it amazing we go out there dressed like we're going to a picnic....except we are the food. Now I grant you that these would probably only offer me a few more seconds before serious injury or worse occurred, but it may give me a few more seconds to get my hands on spray, flare, or my pistol.

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