Will Glock ever make a single stack 9mm?

Will Glock ever make a single stack 9mm?

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    Will Glock ever make a single stack 9mm?

    I have been in the market for a single stack 9mm. I ended up buying the Walther PPS (pics and range report to come) but I was wondering why Glock (or Springfield XDs) do not make a single stack 9mm. Doing a search, there have been rumors of that happening for at least 3+ maybe even 5+ years, but it does not seem to be happening. I believe there is a huge market out there for a more concealable, smaller 9mm than what they make. I would have preferred to stay with the Glock platform, but I couldn't.

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    I wish the same thing.
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    Probably not......why change a winning product?
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    I can't speak for Glock, but as a long time user, I believe their success has alot to do with extreme durability. As RetSup said, why mess with it.
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    That and the Glock Carbine are a point of joking on the Glock forums. They would sell them faster than they could make them, but just dont seem real interested in listening to the customers ideas. Its pretty common knowledge across the firearms industry that if Gaston Glock had his way all Glocks would be a Gen 1 Glock 17. The slogan Glock Perfection is not just a marketing idea...it is an ingrained belief and way of life in his opinion. So the other stuff is just gravy he is making for the masses who realy dont know what is best. They will make more innovative customer driven products when he is dead, and not until then.
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    In fact Glock has "messed with" the original product a whole lot since the original version.

    There have been four generations, versions in six calibers from compact to long slide in two basic frame sizes, with and without compensators, six calibers, including a single stack version in .45 ACP.

    A single stack 9mm/.40 seems a logical addition to the line, though I doubt the slightly slimmer grip in 9mm/.40 would be worth the reduced capacity, unlike the much-improved grip offered by the single stack .45 ACP Glock 36 over the larger Glock .45/10mm's chunky handle.

    I'd like to see if Glock could offer a true .380 version (not the 9mm/.40-sized Glock 25/28). The world needs a truly reliable mini-.380, where Ruger, S&W, Kahr et.al. have conspicuously failed to provide one, but maybe Glock knows better than to try, or feels no need to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExactlyMyPoint View Post
    I have been in the market for a single stack 9mm. I ended up buying the Walther PPS (pics and range report to come) but I was wondering why Glock (or Springfield XDs) do not make a single stack 9mm. Doing a search, there have been rumors of that happening for at least 3+ maybe even 5+ years, but it does not seem to be happening. I believe there is a huge market out there for a more concealable, smaller 9mm than what they make. I would have preferred to stay with the Glock platform, but I couldn't.

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    i agree,Glock is loosing millions of dollars by not marketing a slim,single stack 9mm handgun..almost every other gun maker now has one..i guess one reason is Glock has the market cornered,supplying most law enforcement and military with their handguns..

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    The simple answer to your question: No.
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    OK, so why doesn't Springfield XD make a single stack 9mm and get a jump on Glock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glockwatcher View Post

    I'd like to see if Glock could offer a true .380 version (not the 9mm/.40-sized Glock 25/28). The world needs a truly reliable mini-.380, where Ruger, S&W, Kahr et.al. have conspicuously failed to provide one, but maybe Glock knows better than to try, or feels no need to.
    have to disagree with this statement..although i cant speak for S&W,Kahr or KelTec's 380's my lcp has been flawless,not a single failure of any kind.infact,most lcp owners i'm aware of have the same positive feedback..by all accounts,the lcp is one of the most reliable,best valued pocket 380's available ..
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    I'm not an engineer, but one reason that Glock has not made a single stack 9mm or .40 may be that - it cannot be done, at least to Glock's long-term durability standards.

    The 9mm, .357 Sig and .40 are high pressure cartridges, unlike the low pressure .45 - which Glock does make in a single stack design.

    It would be interesting to see how many Kahr polymer pistols are out there with thousands upon thousands of rounds through them, which is common with Glocks. The lighter Kahr slide puts more stress on the frame - the energy of firing needs to go somewhere, and that is where it ends up. Less weight in the slide = less inertia to absorb energy = more energy transferred to the frame (and the shooter). It will also be interesting to see the long-term durability of the others - R9, DB9, PF9, LC9, 709, etc.

    IIRC, the PPS is barely lighter in weight than the Glock 26, so it might fare better in long term durability - time will tell.

    Some of the small 9mm pistols do not take +P ammo at all (R9), or are only rated for "occasional use (PF9, DB9)." There is a reason for that, and it might be a signal of long-term danger of battering of the frame.

    In any case, this is just a guess on my part, but I think it is a factor in the lack of single-stack pistols from Glock (and others).
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    I'd buy one. I think fear of drastically lessened durability isn't entirely justified.

    I've felt fine with a j-frame, and I'd feel fine with a single stack 9mm.
    Last edited by AlwaysSweet; September 4th, 2011 at 12:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExactlyMyPoint View Post
    OK, so why doesn't Springfield XD make a single stack 9mm and get a jump on Glock?
    Because the company in Croatia that makes the xd doesn't want to?

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    Let it go, Glock has their hands full with sending out free recoil springs for their Gen 4's.
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    10thmtn, I am not sure what thousands upon thousands of rds means, but as u spoke about the reliability and durability of kahr I wanted to say this... I have a pm9 that has over 5200rds(standard pressure only) through it and it is just like it was when I got it. It's been stone cold reliable and seems to be holding up well. I am in the same boat as the o.p. I was in the market for a single stack 9mm and really would have liked to had a single stack glock 26 but the fact is they don't make one "yet". so I bought the Kahr and will have it at least until something proves to be better(I had a keltec pf9 and the trigger sucked and didn't handle anything like the kahr, so I spent the extra coin and got the pm9, also this was just before the solo came out)

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