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This is a discussion on Overrated Handguns within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Great question and thought provoking. I thought for a while and picked solely based on a bias not to mess with JMB's design... I'll leave ...

View Poll Results: Whiich is the most overrated handgun manufacturer?

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  • Kimber

    213 35.98%
  • Sig Sauer

    26 4.39%
  • Smith and Wesson

    18 3.04%
  • Ruger

    14 2.36%
  • Glock

    173 29.22%
  • Springfield Armory

    17 2.87%
  • Walther

    10 1.69%
  • Colt

    21 3.55%
  • Para Ordnance

    17 2.87%
  • Beretta

    12 2.03%
  • Kahr

    29 4.90%
  • Browning

    2 0.34%
  • CZ

    4 0.68%
  • Steyr

    1 0.17%
  • Rohrbaugh

    20 3.38%
  • Other

    15 2.53%
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    Great question and thought provoking. I thought for a while and picked solely based on a bias not to mess with JMB's design... I'll leave it at that.

    I think every reasoned person here would agree the best firearm in the world is the one you have or can access in the time of need. We all have our preferences some like blonds, some like brunettes or red heads- all have the same equipment; just like the firearm - front sight, rear sight, barrel, grip, trigger guard, trigger and ammunition source... beyond that everything else is preference and what we think we want of need.

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    I went back and forth between Kimber and Glock, then chose Kimber. I have owned several of each, and now own none of either brand. I am a fan-boy of no brand, but do love brands which work, and provide me with no drama. I want a weapon that is at least reasonably accurate, and boringly reliable.

    Kimbers are, at best, a third-rate 1911. Even third-rate is OK with me, if they work reliably. Only one of my three Kimbers could be made reliable enough to trust as a street carry gun, and then, only if I used Metalform 7-round magazines, and ONE particular Colt 7-round magazine. (Yes, I tried Wilson mags, plus others.) Another Kimber only worked with Metalforms, and the third only worked with McCormick Power Mags. The Kimbers were notably accurate, but that was all that could be said in their favor, overall. Some scoff, and say user error. Well, then, why did my Colts run reliably, and my SAI and Les Baer TRS run at 100%? I can run a 1911, if it will run with me; my three Kimbers did not want to run.

    Glocks are a top-tier handgun, but even Glock produces the occasional drama queen, and Glock as a company can be too proud to admit a mistake, such as chronic malfunctions in a certain range of the G22, which Glock quietly corrected, without admitting fault, by placing stronger springs in G22 mags after a certain point in production. The stronger mag spring fixed the symptom, not the root problem, of course, but fixed is fixed, I reckon.

    I got away from Glocks because they just don't fit me as well as other handguns which are reliable, top-tier handguns. I might even return to Glock, someday, but would have to find the right goo to re-shape some places on the frame. (In essence, I need a very slim, small, subtle Glock equivalent of what a Tyler T-grip does for a revolver, and build-up underneath the grip tang a similar amount, while not increasing te reach to the trigger.) I would also avoid the .40, staying
    with 9mm, the cartridge that Glock used to become great.

    So, I figure that Kimber is over-rated because it presents itself as top-tier, when it is not, even though its fan-boys think so, and Glock is over-rated because the fanboys think Glock is perfection, when Glock is merely top-tier, sharing that position with other good pistols.
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    Since it's our opinions


    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmo View Post
    "Over-rated" doesn't necessarily mean bad or no good...it may just mean the reputation is greatly inflated. That is why I voted Glock...it's a fine gun, but the cult following screams over-rated. And no, I don't care if somebody buried one for years and then dug it up to shoot it...I couldn't care less.
    agreed

    1. Kimber
    2. Glock
    3. Springfield Amory

    Not that I "wouldn't" own one of these but the cult following isn't warranted by any gun. I have my favorites but I know that they're not vastly superior to all the rest. You buy yours, I buy mine, we're all hoppy.
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    I voted Kimber.

    Their $1500 guns should probably sell for no more than $400 to $500. If someone gives me one for free I might keep it, but it will not be the one I keep ready by my night stand.

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    Colt QC down the drain also because they can't keep up with demands those that don't know better drive up the price. Colts should sell in the $500 to $600 range not over $900. I believe some of the best mass manufactured 1911s are S&W and lately Sig. However, the S&Ws are getting out there in price, while Sig is holding their price line on their new line up which is vastly improved from the days when they were relying on Vendors to manufacture their parts.


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    You may not want to buy a new gun at all, since on the internet someone you do not know is willing to tell you that everything made by (insert any company name here) is junk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OD* View Post
    You may not want to buy a new gun at all, since on the internet someone you do not know is willing to tell you that everything made by (insert any company name here) is junk.
    The guy is soliciting opinions so were giving them - just like you just gave yours...


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    I voted colt..Just because G-man loves his so much....He will figure it out someday....
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    Voted Glock, I see most all the people who went Kimber seem to want to reference the price. Well the poll was for overrated, not overpriced :P

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    People are willing to pay the price because they have been told, or think, it is worth it. And when it's not, it just became overrated.

    Quote Originally Posted by wdbailey View Post
    Voted Glock, I see most all the people who went Kimber seem to want to reference the price. Well the poll was for overrated, not overpriced :P
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    I have a Kimber Pro CDP, with over 600 rounds through it. Yes, it has malfunctioned several times. Every time has been a ftf with a hp in a completely full 8 rd magazine. The rounds had a brass case also. I switched to nickel case rounds, changed to Wilson or mccormick mags and did some self smithing to the feed ramp. It seemed pretty steep to me. Being aluminum, I whittled it down to a less steep angle and then polished it up with a ceramic sharpening stick.
    With the slicker nickel cases, better quality mags, and my smithing it is now reliable. Not sure which modification did the trick, but before it wanted to stick the first hp into the feed ramp. After I SLAMMED the heel of my hand to the bottom of the mag, the round would then chamber. And every round thereafter. It has always cycled round nose fmj's and my lswc reloads flawlessly.

    "Personally, I believe most people who have functioning problems with their Kimbers have a weak grip issue with a lighter aluminum frame 1911. Its imperative that you hold it snugly and let the action work. You cant limp wrist a light 1911 and expect it to function

    btw, I voted ruger. What an atrocious trigger.

    The best hangun for the money is a glock. Ugly....yes, but pretty cheap and 99% of them produced since inception are boringly reliabe and accurate enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    I voted colt..Just because G-man loves his so much....He will figure it out someday....
    Them are fighting words son! There are very few manufacturers that make consistently excellent guns in multiple categories. Colt has always been one of them. You can give me a Colt 1911, Revolver, or M4 and you won't hear me complain about it.
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    Absolutely no question - Glock.

    I mean, they overrate themselves.

    Glock Perfection?

    Oh, please.
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    I voted for Ruger autos ,,,, they just seem to be low grade to me.

    Glock found their design and until another can do this they will stay
    at the top of the food chain.

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    An overrated gun is any gun that is discontinued and ten years later is fondly referred to as a "classic."

    Discontinued because of reliability = "a high tolerance finely tuned classic"
    Discontinued because of mnfr cost = "a finely machined classic"
    Discontinued because of poor sales = "a niche market classic"
    Discontinued because of model dash change = "an elegantly designed classic"

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