Kahr PM45 who has one and do you like it?

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    Kahr PM45 who has one and do you like it?

    I am looking for a 45acp that will work for IWB CCW, I have a Kahr PM9 now and like it and want a 45acp to replace my Springfield 1911A1. The 1911 is not what I expected, I don't think I would carry it for CCW, to many safeties to worry about.

    If IWB is the way to carry the PM45 should I go for a CW45 that is bigger and 1 more round capacity?

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    I'd recommend a PM45/CW45 with a Silent Thunder holster if that's what you want to buy, I don't know if you could be any happier... :)

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    I don't have a .45 anymore (1911 wasn't for me either). I decided to stick with 9mm in all my handguns, keeps things simple and consistent.

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    I'm not particularly a good gauge ( I hope) , but bought my first one..... nickel in the bullet chamber disintegrated on the first range trip. Initially, they suggested I must be at fault but couldn't explain "how".... and eventually learned they are replacing lots of barrels due to this issue. After fighting the battle, they replaced the barrel. Second barrel also did it within only 100 rds at the range and it went back again. We're still having discussions.... and, Kahr has had possession of my gun a lot more than I have.

    So, right now, I wouldn't be buying any Kahr that has the nickel plating on the feed ramp or bullet chamber until I was sure the issue has been resolved. As far as function, it always functioned just fine.
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    I have one and carry it as a BUG, or as a primary if I am unable to carry the Pro CDP for some reason. The PM45 has been a great gun. It conceals well, I pocket carry in the offhand front pocket in a Kydex pocket holster. It is sorta tight in jean pockets, but works great in Docker or Cargo pants. It will function with a 1911 magazine when carried as a back-up, giving me one more option. It is a very accurate weapon, but it hates to be limp-wristed. I load it with the 230gr Golden Sabers and have had no feed issues.Picture014.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmo View Post
    I have one and carry it as a BUG, or as a primary if I am unable to carry the Pro CDP for some reason. The PM45 has been a great gun. It conceals well, I pocket carry in the offhand front pocket in a Kydex pocket holster. It is sorta tight in jean pockets, but works great in Docker or Cargo pants. It will function with a 1911 magazine when carried as a back-up, giving me one more option. It is a very accurate weapon, but it hates to be limp-wristed. I load it with the 230gr Golden Sabers and have had no feed issues.Picture014.jpg

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    VMO...what kind of magazine is that in your PM45?

    I have one, and have not had any issues with it. I usually carry it in the summer time in the cargo pocket of cargo shorts. One of the things I have done to it since the following pictures were taken is put a bit of bicycle inner tubing around the grip like VMO has done....and also taken a dremel to the slide stop to make it a bit more contoured.

    Oh yeah, and yes, I do like it.




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    Don't have the PM45 and haven't had a chance to handle one. I do have the CW45 which I carry daily at work. It virtually disappears IWB. I've found it to be very easy to shoot and it's accurate for a short barreled gun. It is a little snappy with +P loads. Not sure how the smaller CM format would be to shoot. Depending on hand size it might not be too bad.
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    I am a big fan of how easily PM45 conceals. It's light and is (for the most part) extremely comfortable in my Crossbreed or my Remora. The two issues I've found are: 1) the edge of the magazine base is very pointy and 2) the grip is quite rough. These two things mean (for me at least) that the gun is a bit picky about where I wear it when i'm not wearing a T-Shirt underneath my carry shirt (the grip tends to poke me). In the right place (about 3:30 for me) - it's absolutely fantastic.

    Of course I'm biased I have the P380 as well. Big fan of Kahr. I'd highly recommend this pistol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmo View Post
    I have one and carry it as a BUG, or as a primary if I am unable to carry the Pro CDP for some reason. The PM45 has been a great gun. It conceals well, I pocket carry in the offhand front pocket in a Kydex pocket holster. It is sorta tight in jean pockets, but works great in Docker or Cargo pants. It will function with a 1911 magazine when carried as a back-up, giving me one more option. It is a very accurate weapon, but it hates to be limp-wristed. I load it with the 230gr Golden Sabers and have had no feed issues.Picture014.jpg

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    I would also like to know what kind of magazine that is and where you purchased it?

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    I just picked up my PM45 a few days ago and finally made it to the range today. Unfortunately I do have some feeding issues. I know KAHR says the break in is 200 rounds but after 150 rds it was a waste of ammo to continue. The gun failed to feed the first round and if it did usually the #2 or # 3 would jam. It looked like the extractor claw grabbed the rim of the cartridge being chambered causing the round to tilt up and jam the slide. This happened with both mags, I also did make a conscious effort to be sure I was not limp wristing the gun, the same problems happened to a second shooter that was with me. Several times when I chambered the first round I'd pull the trigger and nothing happened, the mag was fully seated and locked but the gun never stripped the round from the mag to chamber it. I called Kahr this morning and the rep agreed there are multiple issues that will require a complete inspection. I'm just waiting for the shipping label.
    When the gun did function it was very accurate, recoil was not unpleasant and probably similar to a G27. In spite of the issues that cropped up I think its a great gun and I look foward to it being repaired. Kahrs service was excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichSteve View Post
    I am looking for a 45acp that will work for IWB CCW
    You want a P45 or the "economy version" of same; can't think of the designator for the latter. The extra butt length makes a big difference in controllability, plus the extra cartridge is a nice bonus.

    I have a P45. These guns excel at mexican carry (no holster), if you do that sort of thing. Please, no wailing and gnashing of teeth; some folks do it without issue. I know a holster is better. Okay?

    I have an RM Holsters Low-Rider kydex IWB for mine, and the gun basically disappears under a loose T shirt. I had a PM9, and IMO these are better suited for pocket carry. You could tote one IWB, certainly, but I'd rather have that extra round and a bit more meat to grab hold of. These little guns are pretty fierce, recoil-wise, in .45 when using full power ammunition.

    If you do end up with the slightly larger pistol, you should look into modifying a six round magazine for a flush fit. There is a big thread on the Kahr Forum regarding this. I did one for mine, and it really makes a difference in the gun's "printability".

    I don't routinely carry my P45 because my HK45C isn't a whole lot bigger and is MUCH easier to shoot. I do tote the P45 at night when walking, though... and I'd take it over any .380 Long Rifle (9mm) unless zombies were on the menu.

    Sadly, it would appear that Kahr still has QC issues. The PM9 I had and this P45 have been flawless, and phenomenally accurate. But my P45 is suffering from the eroding-finish-in-the-chamber syndrome. It is still 100% reliable, but I have to wonder for how long.

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    Glock 36 vs Kahr CW45....one of these will do nicely.




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    Quote Originally Posted by vmo View Post
    I have one and carry it as a BUG, or as a primary if I am unable to carry the Pro CDP for some reason. The PM45 has been a great gun. It conceals well, I pocket carry in the offhand front pocket in a Kydex pocket holster. It is sorta tight in jean pockets, but works great in Docker or Cargo pants. It will function with a 1911 magazine when carried as a back-up, giving me one more option. It is a very accurate weapon, but it hates to be limp-wristed. I load it with the 230gr Golden Sabers and have had no feed issues.Picture014.jpg

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    vmo, Can you please tell us where you got that flush baseplate for the PM45 magazine?? I need to know, thanks. Does it sacrifice a round?

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    I took some old 7 rd 1911 magazines that I had and marked them to fit flush in the Kahr, then cut and welded the bottom closed on them. I reinstalled the shortened stock spring and follower. They function in the gun, but have a tendency to spit out the follower after using the last round. I need to putter with them some more. I think it is just an adjustment issue, but don't have it solved yet. If someone with my meager skills can come this close, why can't Kahr with it's skilled engineers solve the issue?? They hold 6 rounds. Here are some pics...




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    VMO....

    Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions about your modified mags.

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    I liked the size and feel of mine. But I sold it when I went to 9mm...45ACP is just too expensive to train with. I also wasn't wild about the lack of capacity in that pistol. But here's some gun porn shots I took not long before I sold it...

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