This is a discussion on researching and learning on "mini 9's" within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by gooddog What # remora are you using for the Solo? REM-2...
I am trying do decide between a CM9 and a PF9. I have read about the CM9 having issues with nose dives, recoil springs, and having to modify the mags so they work properly along with a lot of them having to be sent back to the factory once if not twice for fixing and that Kahr's CS isn't such a pleasure to work with. The PF9 may need some fine tuning like what I think they call a fluff and buff which doesn't seem to be too had to do at home or you can send it to KelTec who seems to have a good CS department too, and they seem to get good reports from those that own them. Also the cost of a PF9 also is almost half of the CM9. I'm just not sure about spending that much on a gun that I may not feel 100% about carrying.
What is the mag modification that you speak of?
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5th Marines-Thanks for your service. I also served 20 yrs AF Security Police followed by .5 ys local PD and 21.5 yrs. State LEO. I enjoy guns/shooting/reloading and was a Firearms Instructor for my Agency for 15 yrs. When the Kel-Tec PF9 came I recommended our UC agts carry it-it isn't a "Cop/Glock" item. It worked very well in that role and I can't one of the female agts to sell me hers-Nuff said there!. I carried lots of guns-Detonics 45s/ParaOrd Warthog in an ankle holster and now retired in my pocket. J Frame S&Ws too on my ankle & pocket. No experience with Kahr-but local SO sent Kimbers back for quality/warranty issues and returned to Springfield Armory. UCs carried Sig P230 380s before and we had qual issues with mag changes and the caliber on the street.
^^^ Cokeman .... the Kahr mags sometime need their springs modified or replaced, the mags themselves sometimes need some tweaking because they are made within such a tight tolerance, like a little fluff and buff or slight squeeze of their body or either a little squeeze or a bend or file of their top configurations or their followers, and their foot plates tend to bite so some fine wet-dry sand paper will round off the sharp edges. Go to the Kahr forum and read some of the issues and remedies posted there also.
so far with not one hiccup.....its a sweet little gun with about half the felt recoil of the PF-9.
Kimbers are the guns you show your friends....Glocks are the ones you show your enemies.
just grabbed a DiamondBackDB9.......its only 1/2" longer than my LCP or my BG380
and its been 200 rounds flawless so far......I plan to run another 100 through it and make it
my EDC.....very impressive so far for the price of less than 400 bucks and is lightest in class
True but you never hardly read about the good ones, but owners sure rush to post issues they have, and some ask how they can fix them. So if you read a lot about some products that have repeated problems then some tend to shy away from those. We know who has good repeated history's with their firearms, not to say everything they make is perfect but some have a better track record then others. I take what I read on these forums with speculation but like I said if I keep seeing posts that a firearm is having issues, over and over again then wooooo it makes me wounder. Because when you buy one with an issue your options are very limited. You can't just return it like a coffee maker that doesn't work right out of the box. Your kind of stuck with it so you can only hope that the manufacturer will help you out, some are good at that and some could care less. But if I am spending $475. on something that has a 60/40% chance that it might not work New From the Box I would rather spend $280. on one that has a 95/5% chance that it will. YMWVzonker1986: if I listened to every negative internet comment I've read, I wouldn't own any guns.
I guess the gun is your choice. They are all nice guns. Just remember the rulles of several hundred trouble free rounds/150-200 of them your defensive rounds, and regular shooting and training. The biggest issue with the micro/pocket guns is limp wristing (even if you think you don't do it) and that will make ALL of those listed here fail!!
I bought a PF9. So far, I'm impressed. It seems to like PDX +p just fine.
Washington Post 06/28/2010 re: Supreme Court Decision
"The court's decision means that the enigmatically worded Second Amendment... identifies an individual right to gun ownership, like the freedom of speech, that cannot be unduly restricted by Congress, state laws or city ordinances. "