Backup gun choices, Revolver or Pocket Auto?
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October 19th, 2011 06:36 PM
I'd give the ankle holster some serious second thought.
October 19th, 2011 06:54 PM
Well let's pick this apart in a logical manner,
Pros of a revolver are: Reliability, durability, simplicity, and ability to carry .38+P or .357, both good established rounds. Cons of revolver carry: Only 5 shots, slow reloads, short sight radius, bulkier gun and reloads.
Pros of small .380/9mm: 2 more rounds than a revolver, Fast reloads, Smaller and thinner. Con's of a small semi-auto: Less reliable, less durable, minimal sights (generally).
Both have their pros and cons, and much of the above really depends on which one you can carry on you well. I have never tried ankle carry, but as many have mentioned it seems like a less than desirable place for your gun. Have you considered a belly band? A friend of mine let me try one and they are surprisingly comfy and easy to use, and may be a good place for you to snug a small revolver or semi-auto depending on your wardrobe.
In conclusion I would have to say that if you can carry one, carry a small revolver. It excels in most important aspect of a gunfight , and that is that it will work when you need it most.
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October 19th, 2011 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by WC145
This would have been interesting in POLL form.
I am going to echo what I see the majority chiming is with, WHEELGUN.
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October 19th, 2011 07:23 PM
In the process right now of ridding myself of my P3AT and getting a S&W 638 or 438. Was thinking LCR, as it's an ounce lighter, but ever so slightly larger, hardly. The j-frame, to me feels a better made, but the Ruger certainly doesn't feel bad. Unfortunately in the store the trigger was locked up. I like the Smith's option to go single action in the 638/438.
Th Kel-Tec has become unreliable for me. I wanted to love that gun. It was so easy to carry and can always be with me. I don't want to wait while Kel-Tec fixes it. Plus, I don't trust a "fixed" gun, even if it is functioning after the fix. I"m choosing to go with the j-frame because of reliability, more powerful (depending on load), and I've never had a revolver before. It's a little bigger and a few ounces heavier than the Kel-Tec, but I can still make it work with pocket carry. The only downside is it's biggest downside......capacity. Will I need more than 5 rounds, most likely not. But then again, will I ever even need my firearm for self defense, most likely not. So being limited to 5 rounds is acceptable, but I'm not thrilled about it.
Still my primary carry and preferred carry with ALWAYS be my Glock 30 with a spare mag. I rarely carry a BUG. That's not my intent for the S&W. But it's my carrying when I "can't carry" due to concealing issues, like work, or in the summer.
October 19th, 2011 07:29 PM
Depending upon how deep conceal I need to be I carry the LCR or the P3AT. Both have been extensively tested and are fine weapons.
October 19th, 2011 10:39 PM
So, I've been doing a bit of research, and I'm looking at 3 options. I'll explain why
S&W 637. I love the exposed hammer for range shooting, but I am concerned about snagging if I decide to pocket carry.
S&W 642. DOA, better for carry, maybe a little less fun at the range.
Ruger LCR. Don't know much about this, made a few holsters for it but that's about it. I've heard a lot of good things.
What do you guys think about the above options?
October 19th, 2011 11:48 PM
I own a 642 (the one in my avatar), and like it so much that I was considering buying another for a "New York reload". Put one at 4:00 (IWB or OWB), and the other in a coat pocket.
Originally Posted by SHTFGearLLC
Gotta echo the support for the wheelgun. Remember that they WILL fire just fine from a coat pocket, whereas a small auto won't cycle from inside a pocket. I've been in potentially dangerous situations where I was gripping my revolver (effectively had it "drawn"), but nobody had a clue. Hard to beat that.
October 20th, 2011 12:48 AM
I have used both. The wheel gun seems better at this roll for me.
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October 20th, 2011 12:54 AM
I wear BDU and Cargo style pants quite often and pocket carry my BUG .......
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October 20th, 2011 04:54 AM
Originally Posted by pogo2
Best BUG out there IMO... I ankle carry my 638 daily and have no problem with it. As for small autos, IMO, they are good options and can hold more rounds, but if they go down for whatever reason, that plus becomes moot.... My BUG needs to work should I need to get it into the fight. That's why I choose the J frame revolver.
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October 20th, 2011 08:29 AM
I have the S&W 637 and haven't had a problem with the hammer snagging when pocket carrying (Desantis pocket holster). I practice drawing with my thumb on the hammer just to make sure. I choose the 637 because I like the classic look of an exposed hammer revolver, but the 642 was a very close second. You can't go wrong with either.
October 20th, 2011 08:55 AM
my pocket carry is a Taurus PT738 SS. so light, disappears in your pocket. can carry it in gym shorts, it looks like a wallet and i carry it in the galco pocket holster.
October 20th, 2011 09:05 AM
Product: Model 649
I would recommend something like this- small, light .357, had a shrouded hammer, so that you can still draw it back. So it won't snag, but you can still get SA.
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Or one of these. Before anyone starts, I KNOW it's a Taurus- but it's less expensive then the S&W ($433/$729) and I have had no problems with MY Taurus. It is also .357 with a shrouded hammer.
I love my .357mag, but, I wish mine had a shrouded hammer.
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October 20th, 2011 09:07 PM
I had a Smith 642 at one time, but then decided to trade it in on a Sig P238 since it had night sights and had the same controls as my 1911. I figured that if any manufacturer can get a little pocket pistol to run right, Sig would be the one. Unfortunately, as I found out first hand, even mighty Sig couldn't get their version of the little Colt Mustang .380 to run 100%. That experience right there has turned me away from the latest rage of pocket sized semi-autos. It seems that springs and timing of the action are much more important for reliable function in these little pocket pistols than the larger semi autos. A larger semi auto is more reliable due to the increased mass of the slide which is a much better constant to rely upon than springs and split second timing.
I ended up trading the little Sig P238 in on a Glock 26. Yeah, its bigger and heavier, but it goes bang every time. Hence the bigger semi auto's inherent reliability. I mostly carry it IWB in the warmer months, and sometimes in my motorcycle jacket pocket while riding. While riding, it is easier to get to while seated on the bike in case of a "bikejacking".
I am looking very hard at the Ruger LCR for a more discreet, deeper concealment option, though. I shot a friends LCR a while back and it was a much friendlier experience than my previous Smith 642. That Hogue tamer grip along with that sweet LCR double action pull really makes the LCR much more shootable for me than the old 642.
October 20th, 2011 09:45 PM
I bought mine and it looks exactly like this one!!
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