Starting to carry in AZ

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    Starting to carry in AZ

    Forgive me if this is a full on topic somewhere, but I haven't found the thread.
    I'm headed for a CCW class this weekend, and am wondering about what to carry when i'm all ready.

    I can't carry at work, and being in AZ, 90% of my time outside of work is shorts/ tshirt weather here. In the month and a half of winter that I could actually conceivably use a cover garment, this will be a different topic, but during the other 10.5 months of the year, I would probably be looking at a LCP size/ type of gun.

    It seems most of the people on this forum/ others favor larger guns, i.e. sub compact Glocks, XDs, M&Ps and 1911s. How many of you are actually carrying something like a pocket 380?

    Also if anyone has any thoughts on a IWB kydex setup like the Raven Tactical holsters for something like this, I'd be grateful.
    Thanks,
    Jes3se

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    Welcome to the DC Forum from Delaware! Good luck in your hunt for the best setup.
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    Hello and welcome from the "Gunshine State".

    I have similar weather to deal with here in Florida. I have opted to carry a .38 snubby when in hot weather clothing. It's just as small and light as a 380.
    I much prefer 5 rounds of .38 to 6 or 7 rounds of 380. In case you can't tell, I'm not a 380 fan.
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    Welcome from north of the canyon.

    While it doesn't get as hot up here as it does in the valley, we experience a lot of 100+ degree weather.

    You will be surprised what you can carry if you invest in a good system. I frequently carry a 1911, regardless of weather, in a High Noon Public Secret with a High Noon Rock Steady Belt.

    I have been contemplating the Raven systems myself. Near as I can tell they seem to be top notch equipment. I know that Magpul Dynamics and Larry Vickers endorse them.
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    Welcome from SC. That's a challenging question, depending on many more variables that have not yet been disclosed. A good rule of thumb is to carry as much gun as you can conceal and shoot well.

    I do carry a pocket .380, but it's usually a backup to either a 9mm or .45.
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    Thank you for the welcomes and the insights. I'm looking at some options, and even have a friend's LCP with a P3AT pocket clip, and I'm getting used to the feel of carrying a little bit. I know a good belt and holster will make things a lot better. I have a Glock 23 that I love, but am not sure about being able to carry it with the way I dress. I know a lot of people say to dress around your gun, but Im not really ready to go to oversized pants and such yet. Please, keep the comments coming. I'm interested in what your experience has taught you and what you'd recommend.

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    I had an LCP that I carried in a pocket using a Desantis Nemesis. It is very easy to carry, but in my case, not very easy to shoot.

    My Glock 23 usually rides in a SuperTuck, or a Remora No-Clip holster.

    If you seek out some professional training, that will help you decide better what works for you. I subscribe to the 'train how you carry' philosophy.

    The CCW course does not qualify as professional training
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    Quote Originally Posted by jes3se View Post
    Thank you for the welcomes and the insights. I'm looking at some options, and even have a friend's LCP with a P3AT pocket clip, and I'm getting used to the feel of carrying a little bit. I know a good belt and holster will make things a lot better. I have a Glock 23 that I love, but am not sure about being able to carry it with the way I dress. I know a lot of people say to dress around your gun, but Im not really ready to go to oversized pants and such yet. Please, keep the comments coming. I'm interested in what your experience has taught you and what you'd recommend.
    The pocket clip concerns me. The only external safety on that LCP is a long trigger pull. You need to protect that trigger. There are plenty of good pocket holsters out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHEC724 View Post
    The pocket clip concerns me. The only external safety on that LCP is a long trigger pull. You need to protect that trigger. There are plenty of good pocket holsters out there.
    Yeah, it is a little disconcerting to me too. I have been trying it out in a pocket holster, and a Galco Stow and Go without the pocket clip.

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    Youtube gun guy, Hickok45, has done a decent pocket holster review.

    hickok45's pocket holster review
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    Welcome from Virginia. As to a carry gun, you'll be surprised at what you can conceal with the proper set up. Regardless of the type of holster you get, look at spending $60-90 for a good quality gun belt. While a lot of people over look the belt, it is the foundation of you complete system. Without a good support platform for your holster and gun, your basically wasting your time. With the proper rig you can easily conceal a compact, or even a full size 1911 while wearing shorts and a t shirt. Unless you wear a loose fitting t shirt, you'll want to wear a t shirt 1 to 2 sizes larger than you normally wear now. Stay away from light colors, patterned shirts will break up the silhouette of the gun better. Good luck in your search.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jes3se View Post
    Forgive me if this is a full on topic somewhere, but I haven't found the thread.
    I'm headed for a CCW class this weekend, and am wondering about what to carry when i'm all ready.

    I can't carry at work, and being in AZ, 90% of my time outside of work is shorts/ tshirt weather here. In the month and a half of winter that I could actually conceivably use a cover garment, this will be a different topic, but during the other 10.5 months of the year, I would probably be looking at a LCP size/ type of gun.

    It seems most of the people on this forum/ others favor larger guns, i.e. sub compact Glocks, XDs, M&Ps and 1911s. How many of you are actually carrying something like a pocket 380?

    Also if anyone has any thoughts on a IWB kydex setup like the Raven Tactical holsters for something like this, I'd be grateful.
    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by jes3se View Post
    Forgive me if this is a full on topic somewhere, but I haven't found the thread.
    I'm headed for a CCW class this weekend, and am wondering about what to carry when i'm all ready.

    I can't carry at work, and being in AZ, 90% of my time outside of work is shorts/ tshirt weather here. In the month and a half of winter that I could actually conceivably use a cover garment, this will be a different topic, but during the other 10.5 months of the year, I would probably be looking at a LCP size/ type of gun.

    It seems most of the people on this forum/ others favor larger guns, i.e. sub compact Glocks, XDs, M&Ps and 1911s. How many of you are actually carrying something like a pocket 380?

    Also if anyone has any thoughts on a IWB kydex setup like the Raven Tactical holsters for something like this, I'd be grateful.
    Thanks,
    Jes3se
    I carry a glock 19 in t-shirt and shorts everyday in Phoenix and El Paso cause I am stationed here man, you don't need an LCP to be able to conceal. It all depends on your wardrobe and holster, you can conceal pretty much anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jes3se View Post
    Forgive me if this is a full on topic somewhere, but I haven't found the thread.
    I'm headed for a CCW class this weekend, and am wondering about what to carry when i'm all ready.

    I can't carry at work, and being in AZ, 90% of my time outside of work is shorts/ tshirt weather here. In the month and a half of winter that I could actually conceivably use a cover garment, this will be a different topic, but during the other 10.5 months of the year, I would probably be looking at a LCP size/ type of gun.

    It seems most of the people on this forum/ others favor larger guns, i.e. sub compact Glocks, XDs, M&Ps and 1911s. How many of you are actually carrying something like a pocket 380?
    We've heard all this before.

    If you want to carry you can find a way - and WITHOUT dressing uncomfortably.

    Many people carry a .380 or an airweight .38.

    Some ideas........ shorts or pants with cargo pockets , tuckable holsters with a lightweight Cabana shirt , bellyband holsters etc.

    Do a forum seach for warm weather carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zacii View Post
    My Glock 23 usually rides in a SuperTuck, or a Remora No-Clip holster.

    If you seek out some professional training, that will help you decide better what works for you. I subscribe to the 'train how you carry' philosophy.

    The CCW course does not qualify as professional training
    I have a 23 also, Im going to look into these... Thanks Zacil
    Quote Originally Posted by MotorCityGun View Post
    Youtube gun guy, Hickok45, has done a decent pocket holster review.

    hickok45's pocket holster review
    These are pretty good. Ive seen some of his other videos, this one is definitely a help. Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpencerB View Post
    I carry a glock 19 in t-shirt and shorts everyday in Phoenix and El Paso cause I am stationed here man, you don't need an LCP to be able to conceal. It all depends on your wardrobe and holster, you can conceal pretty much anything.
    I'd be interested in hearing what rig you use for that.

    Thanks for all the input guys. Im getting to be more and more convinced of how easy this could be.
    I'd be interested in carrying my Glock 23 fairly regularly, when I figure out what to use for it. I think I'm still interested in more of a mouse gun for quicker errands and taking the dogs out and stuff.

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