I gotta ask: What is "combat accuracy" defined?
This is a discussion on Most Combat Accurate Sub-Compact Pistol within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; We just received the CZ 2075 RAMI. It is a GREAT shooter! See here: http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/...-now-pics.html It was VERY worth the money. The 2075 Rami comes ...
We just received the CZ 2075 RAMI. It is a GREAT shooter!
See here: It came it came it came!!! - NOW WITH PICS
It was VERY worth the money. The 2075 Rami comes in 3 flavors, the standard, the P (polymer) and the BD (Built-in Decocker). The P is the easiest to find. The BD is the hardest to find (took about 4 months from order to receipt). The BD comes with night sights standard, has a 10 or 14 rd mag capacity, and runs a few bucks more than the others.
Aside from the wait, it has been an outstanding decision. We bought the weapon as a CC weapon for when my wife gets her CCW. We are waiting on the class. We shot SEVERAL 9mm weapons before she found one she really liked. That was the Ruger SR9c (I will not buy a Ruger based on past political support on weapon restriction and bans). I set about looking for something similar in shape & feel. I remembered the RAMi and we ran to Cabelas to see if they had one to handle. They had a Polymer. She held it & liked it even more than the Ruger. Got it ordered from a local CZ dealer and then the wait began.
By no means is it a pocket gun! I do like the Double Snap Tuck holster I got for it from Sideguard Holsters. Erik makes a really nice product. Custom accessories are definitely limited for it since it is not of the typical mold.
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I gotta ask: What is "combat accuracy" defined?
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Bryan, the only one I can think of is being able to place aimed fire on a specific area at an area determined by the user.
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As opposed to "Redneck accuracy", which applies to signs, mailboxes, propane tanks, and hapless varmints that wander into field of view.
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4 inches or under at 25 yards
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I have a friend that has been involved in two shootings resulting in three fatalities, he was asked by Mas Ayoob (they are personal friends), what he thought "combat accuracy" should be, John replied "six inches at six feet" was good enough.
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Oh heck no. A Glock makes quite a lump in the belt in an IWB for sure. Neither of mine (19, 26) are any place close to as comfortable to carry as my LCP in a pocket, but I carry a Glock when ever I can conceal it. It may be a lump but it always goes bang.Hell, do you think anyone carries a Glock for because it's "comfortable?"
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If you do not like the Glock or the Springfield you probably will not like my suggestion. I carry the subcompact HK P2000sk chambered in the .357 Sig. Very accurate pistol for it's size. I am quite comfortable with it.
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Anything from a reputable maker is going to be "combat accurate". The trick is finding the one you are willing to stick with for the long haul.
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If you are looking for concealed carry take a look at the Walther PPS, then go the Gunsamerica.com classified and read the article on the first page about the PPS. I have a Glock 26 and there are few people with a concealed carry permit that can hit an 8.5X11 sheet of paper at 50 yards (half a football field) with a Glock 26 much less keep all the rounds on the paper. Most out of the box handguns are doing good to hold a 3" group at 25 yards from a stationary rest much less at 50yards. As far as self defense, most shootings take place under 12 feet.