Shot placement ???
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What I know is ...
November 12th, 2011 12:42 PM
I'll be the first to admit I have no lethal encounter experience. Nor do I want to get into those situations.
What I know is how I respond under stress, in times of real crisis (former EMT/Shock Trauma). I know how I function after an andrenaline dump. I know when I'm scared to death and how to work thru it. In short I know myself. My philsophy is to make a reasonable effort to practice. When it comes down to it, just pull it out and go to work. Nothing fancy, just get the job done and make it home at the end of the day.
Last edited by ctr; November 13th, 2011 at 11:12 AM.
November 12th, 2011 12:42 PM
November 13th, 2011 11:03 AM
My late, great friend, Bob “Zig” Hensley was an expert on this subject. I say “expert” because he has been shot on seven different occasions (sometimes multiple times).
I used to tease him and tell folks he “Zigged when he should have Zagged” and thus the nickname.
You probably remember Zig best from the movie “Hunt for Red October”. Remember the part where Alex Baldwin jumped out of the helicopter down to the sub? Well that wasn’t the actor, that was Zig. Seems they wouldn’t let a Hollywood stunt man jump out of a Navy chopper, it had to be a Navy Diver. So, Big Zig got the call. “That was my 2.5 seconds of fame!” he used to laugh and say.
ZIG's AR.jpg DSC02808.jpg
Zig with a Tack Driver he built...and a 100 yd. group!
Zig was a real Patriot and an unsung war hero. A little known fact: He was once held prisoner by the Iraqi Army for a few days.
“They beat the hell out of me and tortured me. I would have much rather they stripped me naked and put women's underwear on my head. Heck, I might even have liked that!” He told me this as we were watching the news about the Gitmo incident.
Zig was 100% disabled at the time of his recent death. And for the record, Zig was shot with the following calibers:
9mm, .357 Magnum, AK-47, .12 Gage 00 Buckshot, and .25acp. The latter was two shots in the mouth at contact distance.
Zig and I have had some long talks about caliber choices and stopping power over the years. That said, we concluded that it all comes down to three things:
1. Shot placement
2. Shot placement
3. Shot placement
Tactical Shooting Academy
P.S.- Zig also had a catastrophic failure with his issued Beretta over in the Sand Box one time during a battle, but that’s a whole other story…
Last edited by DRM; November 13th, 2011 at 04:06 PM.
November 13th, 2011 12:45 PM
Thanks DR. For those of you that don't know, ZIG was my Uncle and best friend. Those are all true stories and The PS story is how he got his service call name "shape".
Its nice to read stories of such a great man and to know how well known he was in the shooting world.
Fair winds and following seas my friend. RIP Big ZIG
November 13th, 2011 01:15 PM
Originally Posted by bsms
Sounds like wisdom to me.
November 13th, 2011 10:45 PM
People who "work on speed" before they learn accuracy have a tendency to shoot themselves in the leg.
Originally Posted by rockymtnnut
November 13th, 2011 11:09 PM
Originally Posted by bsms
I really don't know what to say...
So, you just keep on keepin on the way you keep on, and I'll do my thing with my 5 minutes of dry fire every day and occasionally gettin to classes when I can.
Good luck to you, and I hope you are as good as you think you are, because I know I've got a long way to improve...
November 14th, 2011 11:01 AM
The key to shot placement is balancing SPEED with ACCURACY.
Originally Posted by glockrocker
To achieve this, I tell my students to practice shooting groups. FIST SIZE groups. No matter what the distance, try to shoot fist size groups when training.
Shoot'em to the ground first (or shoot until the threat is no longer a threat, which ever comes first) then assess...
It's better to get a hit on target fast,then follow up if needed,small groups are taught for self control of the sights,trigger,grip of the gun.
Practice ain't the same as race day. Under stress, your only going to be about as half as good as you think you are, if you're lucky. Train smart, shoot smart.
November 14th, 2011 04:52 PM
Amen to that....
Originally Posted by MitchellCT
Don"t let stupid be your skill set....
November 15th, 2011 02:34 PM
For most of us, I would think, the adrenaline will be going so fast that we will be very lucky to hit the BG anywhere when the SHTF. And then we will exit as fast as we can having made sure the threat is over. But let's hope we never have to find out!
Chicken Little? Who the heck is Chicken Little? And what does she know, anyway?!
" The will of the majority, the natural law of every society, is the only sure guardian of the rights of man." Thomas Jefferson.
November 16th, 2011 12:54 PM
November 17th, 2011 08:45 PM
I see it like this if u don't believe in keep n your shots accurate as possible what would u think if one of your possible many stray rounds strikes the neibor kid across the street or a bystander a block away may b a loved one in the next room in your house just something to consider aim to shoot b able to shoot what u aim at just my two cents on it
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