Glock 21 or RIA 1911

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    Glock 21 or RIA 1911

    I've got a buddy that is looking for a somewhat inexpensive .45 for range use. He owns a few 9mms (I believe a G19 and a few other larger frame 9s). He asked me what I would pick and I can't really give him a straight answer. Both guns have their pros and cons. I don't own a G21, but I do own one 45 Glock, a G30 and enjoy it. It's a no frills pistol that's great for CC. I also own a RIA GI 1911 that I enjoy shooting. I've never had any problems with it, even though it's a low end 1911.

    Based on what he wants the gun for, both pistols would be okay. If this were going to be his only gun, I would suggest the Glock, but since he has other guns for carry, the 1911 would make a nice range toy.

    It sounds like he would be picking up a used G21 or a new RIA 1911 based on his price range.

    What would you guys tell him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattwestm View Post
    Based on what he wants the gun for, both pistols would be okay. If this were going to be his only gun, I would suggest the Glock, but since he has other guns for carry, the 1911 would make a nice range toy.
    That's what I would tell him.
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    It kind of puts me in an awkward situation because I've been thinking about selling my 1911 for another Glock. I never carry the 1911 and I figure it's better to train with what I carry. I still don't know if I can live without a 1911 though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattwestm View Post
    It kind of puts me in an awkward situation because I've been thinking about selling my 1911 for another Glock. I never carry the 1911 and I figure it's better to train with what I carry. I still don't know if I can live without a 1911 though.
    Do what you need to yourself, but don't let that influence what you think is a good suggestion. I don't think you can go wrong suggesting the RIA 1911 as a range toy since he already has Glocks for carrying. 1911s are fun and since this year is the 100th anniversary of that platform, I'm going to suggest the RIA 1911.
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    there should be no question, glock is the way to go,
    the 1911's are nice toys, fun to tinker with and take to the range
    the glock is a modern dependable workhorse of a weapon than is fine on the range and good for carrying as an EDC

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    For range use, I'd opt for the 1911. It has far more potential for upgrades, customizing, etc. than a Glock. Glocks are Glocks, and there's not a lot you can do about it. For defensive use, I'd opt for the G21 solely for the extra rounds, or a G30 with a G21 mag on standby!
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    If the friend is going to do any work with the gun other than range work, i.e., HD, I would go with the G21. For range work only, if he is willing to spend a bit more $$$, he can sure tweak the heck out of a 1911. I have and do carry a 1911, but the G21 is simply more reliable and easier to fix if something goes wrong.
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    I'd say get a M&P45 instead of a Glock, but the 1911 would be fun.

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    I should get a RIA; or even better, a Springfield GI. BTW, 1911s are better, a Springfield – GI


    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    there should be no question, glock is the way to go,
    the 1911's are nice toys, fun to tinker with and take to the range
    the glock is a modern dependable workhorse of a weapon than is fine on the range and good for carrying as an EDC
    So you mean that 1911s are not dependable, unmodern toys that are not good for carrying, while the Glock is modern workhorse of a weapon good for carrying… huh … I guess I have leaned something new today
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    Quote Originally Posted by GM View Post
    So you mean that 1911s are not dependable unmodern toys that are not good for carrying, while the Glock is modern workhorse of a weapon good for carrying… huh … I guess I have leaned something new today
    Any gun can fail. I had a few issues with my Glocks during the first 100 rounds, but after that, no problems at all. Coincidentally, I've never had a problem with my RIA 1911 and it's got about 2000rnd through it using many different magazines.

    I must admit though, I've seen more problems at the range with 1911s than any other gun. There are so many different factors (mags, mods done to the gun, ammo, etc.)

    I'd trust my life to either gun as long as they are reliable. However, in the event of a SHTF scenario, I'm going for the Glock before any other handgun for the simplicity factor.

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    If he wants a range gun, buy the 1911. If he wants a gun he can rely on when the chips are down, get the Glock 21.
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    Simple process here...

    Does he have a 1911?

    -No- He needs one.

    -Yes- He needs another.

    If he already has Glocks, why does he need another? EVERY shooting/gun enthusiast should have a 1911. A Colt would be best, but any 1911 is a good addition to the family.


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    Glocks are great carry guns because they are light, reliable and very maintenance free. They are also a dime-a-dozen.
    A 1911 on the other hand, and in particular a Colt, is a gun to be prized. It is to the professional what the Katana is to the warriors of feudal Japan.

    They both have their place. But for accuracy over capacity, I will take the 1911.
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