Need help with a gun decision!!!

Need help with a gun decision!!!

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  • H&K USP Compact

    24 33.80%
  • H&K P30

    13 18.31%
  • SIg Sauer P220 Dark Elite

    34 47.89%
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    Need help with a gun decision!!!

    So Im trying to decide which gun I want:

    The Contestants are:

    - Sig Sauer p220 Dark Elite
    - H&K p30 compact
    - H&K USP compact

    any thoughts??

    which would you buy?


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    SIG fan. But like the looks of the p30. Never met an unhappy HK owner.

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    yeah its a tough decision for sure.... any one know the tigger pound pull on the HK's?? I have found the sig on their site.

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    I would go with the h&k. I think sig like glock is over rated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattmann View Post
    I would go with the h&k. I think sig like glock is over rated.
    Not even worth it...

    Anyways, what is the purpose of this gun? Carry, range, safe, etc., etc.?

    And since when did HK start manufacturing compact P30s?
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    Where is the Glock? I keep looking but I cant find it on the poll?

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    yeah im not a glock guy. dont like them never will. but to each his own.

    but the purpose will always be carry and defense. it will become a part of rotation of conceal carry weapons.

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    I like Sig and HK although I don't currently own an HK model. In this case I would probably go with either the USP or P30, but only because the Elite Dark comes with those horrible adjustable Millet sights. They have been nothing but problems from what I've read. They aren't very durable and frequently seem to fail and the slide cut doesn't fit other sights so you are stuck with them. Pick a P220 with fixed sights and you have a tougher decision. I've seen a post by Bruce Grey on Sig Forum where he may be in the process of coming up with a fix/replacement.

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    Why did you leave the HK45/45c off of the list, it seems like that is the more natural choice to pit against the P220? Out of all the guns you listed if the HK45c were in the running it would be my first choice by far with the light LEM trigger.
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    I could highly recommend an antique, 5-pound, .36 caliber, flintlock duelling pistol - but what would my personal preference have to do with yours?

    You have obviously looked over a number of different brands and styles in various price ranges and picked out the three you would personally prefer most.

    Perhaps do a little online "consumer evaluation" research on each one, then choose the one that seems acceptable to you and fits your hand the best - done deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Shooter View Post
    So Im trying to decide which gun I want:

    The Contestants are:

    - Sig Sauer p220 Dark Elite
    - H&K p30 compact
    - H&K USP compact

    any thoughts??

    which would you buy?
    What caliber USP Compact are we talking?

    As for the 220, if you're going to get a 220, get a Standard, Elite, or Combat, leave the rest of the glamour packages out of the equation.

    As for the HKs, the P30 is not a compact and is available in couple different configurations, DA/SA LEM, P30L, P30LS, P30S (I'm guessing the OP may be calling the regular P30 a "compact" as compared to the P30L.

    I would probably opt for the P30, it's a little larger than the USPc but still very concealable.

    I've been very happy with my HK45 and have been eye-balling the P30S / P30LS for a while. I've done the Sig thing a couple of time and of late I'm beginning to loose faith in Sig. Seeing too many trends that seem to match Kimber step for step into decline...

    Back to the USPc vs P30, the P30 will give many more options to tailor the gun to your hand while the ergonomics of the USP were always a little lacking.

    If you haven't read over it all ready, check out the P30 "Torture test" @ Pistol-Training.com
    At 91,300 rounds, the P30 was running strong. Even after a chunk went missing from the frame, the gun had turned in well over five thousand rounds of accurate and reliable service. I carried it every day.

    By 91,322 however, the pistol had suffered three stovepipe stoppages. In the course of those twenty-two rounds, the P30 — hot, broken, and abused — finally skipped a beat. Something clearly wasn’t right. So on Monday, the pistol got packed up and sent to HK’s Sam Bass for a detailed inspection. Sam has been the go-to guy for every technical issue and question during this project, and if anyone was going to get to the bottom of this, it was him.

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    Always wanted an HK but always end up with Sigs or S&Ws,,, voted for the Sig...
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    sorry. The two gun brands I will never own.
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    Kimbers are the guns you show your friends....Glocks are the ones you show your enemies.

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    Show me pictures and then I'll vote.
    Glock 23 - CZ 452 ZKM Special - Walther P22
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    I voted for you to go with the H&K USP Compact. I carry one in 45.
    Have Fun and Shoot Straight !!

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