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I can see some pluses to standardizing you guns, but I don't do it. I like variety in my life.
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I prefer standardization (SA XD9 platform) for most defensive reasons, but I do see the use in having different guns available, such as a snubby for a coat pocket or a LCP/Kahr 9mm for situations that require a bit more discretion, or a .357 or .44 revolver for woods carry. Different tools for different occasions.
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I don't have a large number of guns and the handguns aren't standardized in any characteistic. Long guns seem to be a random assortment; a .22lr (Magtech, an "inexpensive" Brazilian import) and a .22WMR (Savage 640KS). The shotguns are all 20 gauge, by conscious choice: a New Haven (Mossberg) pump w/28" barrel, a Remingtion 1100 w/18" barrel, and a Savage Model 24 in 20 gauge and 30-30. I just didn't want to have multiple shotgun gauge ammunition choices. I only need to keep straight on the type of load in the shells.
The other thing I recently noticed that's "standardized" in the long guns is that they all have wood furniture, no plastic. Only the .22lr was bought brand new; the rest are older models in pretty good condition. I'll have to think about that next time I consider a purchase! I do like the wood over the plastic...
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After reading all of the diverse opinions, I need to add my answer was with respect to my CHL hand guns:
I still have some "others", but I would not change a carry weapon at this point. Can I operate others? Yes, but they would never be in a carry "rotation". It is fun to read others answers, especially when they have the experience and ability to rotate through many different platforms.Absolutely! As someone late to handguns at 50+, having a standard manual of arms simplified training, reduced the training curve, and allowed the leveraging of skills late acquired. I also standardized caliber for a number of years (9 mm).
Yes, I can and do.Can you jump from a car with an automatic transmission to one with a stick shift? I can, and I do it a few times a week.
The difference is I have driven both sticks and automatics the last 40 plus years, whereas I did not begin shooting handguns that long ago.
Really? Right. Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson take different sets of clubs out every week just for the challenge?dumbing down of one's capabilities
If I had started shooting at age 10 or 12, and had owned several different platforms over the years, yea, muscle memory might not be that big of a deal.............
I don't think it's "dumbing down", but whatever.............
I have worked with the Internal Revenue Code, the Regulations thereunder, the Administrative Promulgations, the Court Cases and most of the 50 states' equivalents for 35 plus years. Would "simplification" or "standardization" be considered "dumbing down" by me?
Nope. It'd be a relief at this point.
Last edited by Rock and Glock; November 14th, 2011 at 10:40 AM.
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I do see "value" in it as the question asks, however I think it depends how much time and effort you put into training with these different weapons platforms. If you train daily then
sure you could switch between weapons however if you train monthly I would suggest sticking with the same basic platform.
Aside from Glocks, I like any quality handgun 9mm or 38 and above.
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Buy and shoot what you like and you might find that standardization can occur just from preference rather than concerted effort. For me, through the processes of aquisition and elimination, I've ended up owning 1911s and S&W DA revolvers and very little else.
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That's like asking, "Do you still beat your wife?" Of course there is some sort of value in standardizing you rfirearms, just as there is some sort of value in not doing so. Some wish to have handguns all of one caliber; some wish to have many calibers. There's value in both.
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I dont know if I would really call it standardization but all my weapons now have a constant trigger pull, either SAO or DAO. I just dont like the DA/SA transition.
Glock 36, 30SF, 31, 32, 21 Gen4 - Carry guns
Ruger Mini-14 and Remington 870 by the bed both wearing Surefire lights.
Always carry a knife-they are handy to have
Always carry a reload-You probably won't need it but it is good insurance .
Always carry a light- To see in the dark
Simply put ... If I need it, I want it, I like it, then I'll buy it. So If it's practical for me it's in my stable too.
I have several Kahrs, a Glock, a Ruger LCP for ultra concealment and several revolvers in .38 or .357. All calibers except the ruger are 9mm, .45 or .38/.357. I did this deliberately as I wanted all my weapons to be double-action/no safety, and I woke up one day and saw I had five or six different pistol calibers in my safe, so I thought it wise to consolidate.
I agree that one should be knowledegable on the major platforms (1911, DA/SA semis, etc.) but it makes sense to me that in the unfortunate event I have to draw my weapon in defense, I will be amped beyond belief and having the same essential movement operate all my pistols will be an advantage. I like to think I'm a cool customer who would remember to sweep the safey, but what if I'm not? Why bother to find out when you can remove the potential for the error, assuming you are comfortable with your trigger finger discipline? Of course, some folks train extensively and I respect that they might have superior capabilities to mine, but for me, it makes sense.
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I can see some benefit to having similiar guns, such as the G17, 26, et. al., but I don't really think of standardizing when I look at the relative merits of a pistol. Most cases, for me, the differences in aesthitics and ergonomics are less meaningful than simply whether I like the gun and it has any usefulness for me.
The comments about multiple platforms are also pertinent; not being familiar with a feel and operation in your hand could be detriment to your good health in a bad situation. I'd bet you could also make an argument that different ergonomics are better on your hands, particularly nerve endings and the like. I know after a couple of hundred rounds in my PM9 my hand is happy to have the G17, the H&K or the Ruger to shoot for a while.
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Parroting others, my opinion is standardize for self defense, and then enjoy variety for recreation.
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I shoot/collect S&W pre lock wheel guns ONLY. It is easier to become a 'expert' knowledge wise with ONE model than the hundreds out there.