First CC gun, caliber decision

First CC gun, caliber decision

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    First CC gun, caliber decision

    Hey guys, new to the forum, but have been lurking for a while. I am in the process of getting my CC permit in Tax-a-chusetts and have been debating a few different firearms and calibers and wanted to get your opinions on the matter. First of all, I know there is no substitute for training, which is why I am enrolling in an advanced carry/training course after I get my license. Second, practice always makes perfect, which is why I am having a hard time deciding on caliber. At first I wanted a Kimber .45acp but in my great state, getting a Kimber due to laws is virtually impossible. I am not opposed to wheel guns, but think that I may prefer a semi instead for my first gun. I am really deciding between calibers due to cost, I want to have ample stopping power, but I also want the caliber to be cheap enough that I can shoot as much as I want to hone my skills. All that said, here are the choices:

    1. Glock 19 9mm
    2. S&W 686 38 special
    3. Glock 32
    4. Sig p226 in 9mm or .40s&w

    Open to other options, just wanted to get some feedback/ideas


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    You have 2,3 and 4 all wrong.You might want to do a bit more research.
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    First, I'm always partial to the Glock 19 as it's my EDC, and 9x19mm is more than enough for SD and is the least expensive to practice with.

    Second, Sig does not make the P226 in .45.

    Third, the Glock 32 is chambered in .357 SIG, not .357 Magnum.

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    OK, here goes.

    First, you have some mistakes in you caliber choices that will get your hand blown off. A .357 Magnum is a different caliber gun than a .357 Sig. That means that the S&W 686 shoots a very different round than the Glock. A 38 special (sometimes abbreviated .38 spl) can be shot from a .357 Magnum but a .357 Mag from a .38 special will probably blow up the gun.

    A .357 Mag, a .357 Sig and a .380 are not interchangeable. Bad stuff will happen if you try to swap them out.


    Moving on to part two of my answer: If I had the money to only buy one gun it would be a G19. A G19 is a fantastic gun and a great "all rounder".

    Will this be a gun exclusively for carry or will it be for carry and HD?
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    Well sorry to say the glock 32 is .357 sig not magnum and that ammo is up there 9mm is about the most cost effective for practice especially if you are leaning towards a semi auto. I personally love a good whelgun as a primary or a bug and .38 special is ussually priced between 9mm and 40 and is fine for practice with a .357 but ultimatley the choice is yours and what you eel comforable with.

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    I may be in the minority on this, but my opinion is that no firearm will help you unless it is on your person. By that I mean if the firearm is heavy or bulky, one may hesitate to strap it on, especially when the weather is hot. Personally, I carry a Ruger LCP in a pocket holster in my front pocket. I realize that there is a strong argument among concealed licensees that nothing short of 9mm should be carried, but a .380 in the pocket is much more valuable than a .45 sitting on the dresser at home.
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    9mm is always an inexpensive reliable handgun cal. Good defensive round, and easy on the wallet to practice with. I would suggest this as a good starting point. i own 357 magnum in a J frame, and it is too much to handle. I own many j frames, and love the 38 special. I also carry a Glock 30 chambered in 45 ACP, which is a puppy dog to shoot in comparison to the j frame 357. Do some more research... its actually one of the most enjoyable parts or getting a new handgun. bunker
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    Of the choices listed, I would concur with getting the Glock 19 9mm. All round, it is a solid choice. 9mm is amongst the cheapest ammo for target practice and with a high quality defensive round should give you no problems in regards to getting the job done (note, I don't buy into the caliber war).

    Really, before you decide the best thing you could do is try as many different models as you can. If you have a local range that will rent for a nominal fee then take advantage of this opportunity. Second, read as much as you can and third go to the gun stores and talk to the clerks. Take your time. Eventually you will come to a decision but before you do, you will probably find yourself changing your mind a few times about what you want.

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    It's hard to beat the G19, but the G26 is more compact and conceals more easily. However, I carried my 19 today and had no trouble whatsoever.Also, 9mm ammo is very reasonable and may lead you to have more range time plus fun and training.
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    Which do you shoot best and are more accurate with?

    Why can't you get a Kimber in MA?

    If capacity is limitted in MA, I would prefer to carry .45 acp (GLOCK 30). Here in Kansas I can carry 15+1 of screaming 9x19 in my GLOCK 19 which gives me a great SD round and plenty of it.
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    Thanks for the quick replies guys. I have been reading about so many different handguns that I mixed them all up when typing. My bad.

    atctimmy- the gun will be used for both CC and HD. If I go glock, when home, it will have a tactical light/laser on it next to the bed.

    bunker- thanks for the reply regarding the .357 magnum. The 38 special may be the way to go. How does the 38 special compare in stopping power/cost. I know placement determines much of the equation, but there is some difference depending on round power.

    Keep the good responses coming, can never have too much info.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joker1 View Post
    Which do you shoot best and are more accurate with?

    Why can't you get a Kimber in MA?

    If capacity is limitted in MA, I would prefer to carry .45 acp (GLOCK 30). Here in Kansas I can carry 15+1 of screaming 9x19 in my GLOCK 19 which gives me a great SD round and plenty of it.
    Kimber's do not meet MA standards (list of allowed handguns). Unless it was made before 10/21/98 it has to pass MA codes and specification which leaves out a ton of guns. Kimber, all the new Springfields etc

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    the gun will be used for both CC and HD
    As others will likely point out, you can't get the perfect gun for CC and HD. What's best for one application is suboptimal for the other. You should plan on getting the best firearm for each application - you need at least 2.

    But, if you must start out with a hybrid choice like this, look at the Ruger SR9c. You can go with the the 10 round magazine for CC and the 17 rounder for HD - it's crazy accurate at likely distances for CC and HD, solid as a tank, reliable, and has a trigger and ergonomics that run circles around the Glock 19.
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    I think if I had to pick just one, it would be a gun capable of handling .38 Special +P, which of course includes all .357 Magnum revolvers. Not a huge fan of 9mm Luger for various reasons, but the Glock 19 would be a good choice too, if you are disciplined enough to keep your fingers and everything else off that trigger until you want to fire. A Glock 19 can be turned into a Glock 32 with a simple conversion barrell and mag swap.

    Take a look at Ruger's SR9C too.

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    At least the newb isn't considering an ineffective lame-touchie caliber mouse gun for comfort and convenience. (I'm working hard here on complying with TOS and my DC master, JD). Good job there, pardner. There's no such thing as dumb questions. Stick with a service-caliber round.
    You can't go wrong with starting with 9mm. It's an effective round, easy to find plentiful, and cheap ammo, numerous top-quality weapons, and a good jump-off for wherever your carry takes you.
    The .357 mag is a truly noble carry round. It shoots in revolvers (and rifles), but you have to balance capacity in a wheelie (5,6 or 7 rounds) vs. 9mm semi (10-17 rounds). The .357 sig is the semi-auto flavor of the .357 mag, basically a sawed off .40 S&W round (I see a dung storm coming). Some swear by it. Price a box of ammo before you buy into it.
    Glocks are popular for a good reason, but not everyone's cup 'o tea (I gulp it daily). You really have to shoot a few first to see if you like it. I always enjoy striking up conversations with fellow shooters at the range. Most folks are pretty open to exchanging weapons and shooting some different stuff with someone who's interested. I always offer my weapon before I beg theirs (some wienies just can't be swayed...no big deal, but I've shot nearly anything I saw at the range with a proper introduction/conversation/set-up). I've learned a ton of stuff from strangers at the range, and I've taught a bunch of people stuff I know. All good ju-ju. When I was a complete newb, I was amazed at the sharing and caring of complete strangers at the range and I always keep that in mind when I witness rookies screwing up. You just have to be willing to care and share. It's as easy as "I like your gun", or "Can I show you something?"
    All the actual options you mention have ample "stopping power". It really comes down to how it feels in your hand, and how well you can shoot it. Then, you'll be ready to enter the bewildering world of holsters, belts, clothing, and the numerous differing opinions of all the "experts". Carry is truly a personal experience. There is no "right" answer, just a lot of "wrong" ones.
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