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NEW GUN! RIA 22 TCM, a .223 on a necked down 9mm case in a 1911 package, 2100 FPS

This is a discussion on NEW GUN! RIA 22 TCM, a .223 on a necked down 9mm case in a 1911 package, 2100 FPS within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by dukalmighty Well since I can swage 223 bullet tips from 22 spent brass for almost nothing once the gun is available I ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    Well since I can swage 223 bullet tips from 22 spent brass for almost nothing once the gun is available I will need to not only buy a few hundred rounds of factory ammo,but try to get other people at the range to buy one and then sweep up their spent brass to reload for mine WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER
    I'd like to see that. I'm always amazed at that process but I havent seen it done with a rimfire type case. Very cool none the less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    I had the chance to shoot a FN 5.7mm. Really liked it. I don't know how it does as a combat/self-defense round, but it was fun to shoot.
    +1 Those are fun to shoot the 22tcm does sound interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulley View Post
    I'd like to see that. I'm always amazed at that process but I havent seen it done with a rimfire type case. Very cool none the less.
    That is how Fred Huntington, founder of RCBS, got his start. Here is a write-up of the process of making bullets from 22lr brass.

    http://rceco.com/img/rfjackets.PDF
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    Just thought I would update this thread...

    Both Hornady and Lee are making dies for the .22 TCM. The Hornady ones are currently $91 and the Lee ones are currently $75 at Ammo Supply Warehouse. The way I look at it, I would shoot my .223 brass until the neck splits, then convert it to .300 AAC, shoot that until the neck splits, and then convert *that* to .22 TCM. If you reload, it really doesn't matter if the ammo is not widely available since you can convert your own from .223 brass. I've been meaning to get one of these RIA handguns for awhile. I have their 10mm M1911 and I like it. I'm more interested in developing a load for the Lee 55gr .225" (C25-55-RF) mold though. Well, that plus converting the 9mm barrel to 9x23.
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    I have one

    Bought mine about 6 months ago, only shot about 50 rounds. It is a functional weapon... not quite up to the quality of my Colt 45 Gov't model of 45 years, but very acceptable. I like that it is a convertible from 22tcm to 9mm. I have several 9mms and lots of ammo. Some day it may be harder to get ammo, and I know the 9mm will always be around. But the tcm being so much faster round than the 9mm, I like that idea and I know if you hit em in the right spot even a 22 short will kill em. Mine is od color, haven't seen any others like it, a conversation piece at parties. anyways a thumbs up from me.

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    I bought a full-size and mid-size .38 SUPER barrel for mine along with the .38 SUPER dies recently and I'm in the process of trimming the bottom lug on the full-size barrel so that it will work in the mid-size frame. The mid-size barrel works, but I wanted to get the most velocity out of the mid-size that I could, so I figured I would try to fit the full-size barrel to the mid-size gun instead of putting it in the full-size RIA single stack .22TCM/9mm that I have.

    I'm making my brass out of .223 brass, so I don't have to worry about any extractor tweaking. My current tests have been with just loading it to 9x19 levels since I haven't decided on what weight recoil spring to buy. It doesn't seem to like the Lee 105gr SWC with respect to feeding the rounds from the mag, but the 124gr TC design does feed. Since I'm using .223 brass to make the .38 SUPER brass and will be using 9x23 level loads, I think what I'm creating is a .38 SuperComp.
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    Let me know when I can get a conversion bbl for my glock 20. This would be a lot of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmose73 View Post
    Let me know when I can get a conversion bbl for my glock 20. This would be a lot of fun.
    For which one? For .38 SUPER (to make into .38 SuperComp, perhaps)? Here's a barrel...

    Lone Wolf Distributors - Product Detail - LWD Barrel M/20L&40 Conversion to 38 Super - $104.95
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyVet1959 View Post
    For which one? For .38 SUPER (to make into .38 SuperComp, perhaps)? Here's a barrel...

    Lone Wolf Distributors - Product Detail - LWD Barrel M/20L&40 Conversion to 38 Super - $104.95
    For the 9mm necked down to 22.



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    Quote Originally Posted by kmose73 View Post
    For the 9mm necked down to 22.
    Actually, it's a .223 shortened and necked down to .22... They have the conversion kit for the Glock 17 and 22. It's called a .22TCM9R though and is slightly shorter than the .22TCM due to the smaller size magazine of the 17 and 22 as compared to a M1911.

    https://advancedtactical.com/product...or-glock-17-22

    They also have it for the 19 and 23...

    Conversion Kit for Glock - 19/23 | Armscor International, Inc

    At a street price of around $420-430, it's not worth it in my opinion for just a conversion. For just a little more money (around $500-600), you can have a RIA full-size or mid-size M1911 with double stack mag in the full length .22TCM and 9mm combo. And even better, you can add a .38 SUPER barrel and new recoil spring and make a .38 SuperComp (9x23 level) out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyVet1959 View Post
    Actually, it's a .223 shortened and necked down to .22... They have the conversion kit for the Glock 17 and 22. It's called a .22TCM9R though and is slightly shorter than the .22TCM due to the smaller size magazine of the 17 and 22 as compared to a M1911.

    https://advancedtactical.com/product...or-glock-17-22

    They also have it for the 19 and 23...

    Conversion Kit for Glock - 19/23 | Armscor International, Inc

    At a street price of around $420-430, it's not worth it in my opinion for just a conversion. For just a little more money (around $500-600), you can have a RIA full-size or mid-size M1911 with double stack mag in the full length .22TCM and 9mm combo. And even better, you can add a .38 SUPER barrel and new recoil spring and make a .38 SuperComp (9x23 level) out of it.
    I would agree that the conversion in too high. Thanks for the info.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kmose73 View Post
    I would agree that the conversion in too high. Thanks for the info.
    The thing is, the conversion comes with a new slide. If it just needed a new barrel and recoil spring, it would be a lot better. The RIA is a nice gun though. Unless you are just one of those die-hard polymer fanatics, I would suggest you consider it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyVet1959 View Post
    The thing is, the conversion comes with a new slide. If it just needed a new barrel and recoil spring, it would be a lot better. The RIA is a nice gun though. Unless you are just one of those die-hard polymer fanatics, I would suggest you consider it.
    Thanks I'll look them over.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kmose73 View Post
    Thanks I'll look them over.
    The mid-size double stack RIA is pretty much the same size as my G29 with a G20 mag in it, but less boxy and better ergonomics (well, at least to us old farts that cut our teeth on M1911s). :)
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