By the way, look around. Have you seen how fat people are these days? Gettin fatter too. Even the criminals.
In general, this whole debate is downright hilarious. Everytime it comes up it's the same argument. Personally, 9mm won't cut it so I carry a 357 mag as a BUG or primary in my "shorts or jeans and tennies". You ain't gonna bust me out either. I also carry a CCO 1911 in those same shorts, jeans and tennies and you won't bust me out in that either. Dress around the weapon.
Convenience vs......whatever the other side of the argument is. Hmmmm. Funny. I brought this lil shooter here cause it conveniently fits in this convenient lil wallet holster. Sorry. I don't sit on my guns. It's too INconvenient if I'm attacked while seated. Hope you are standing up or can really fool the random shooter that isn't simply standing there asking for your...wallet.
Here's what I take away from this argument the most. Folks who argue FOR the lil .380 seem to be trying to justify something. Is it the fact they feel stupid for being convinced its a fine and sufficient primary carry weapon when deep down they knew better? Is it to justify the outrageous amount of money they spent on a gun that gets shunned by many other CCers? Not to mention the ammo prices.
If I HAVE to decide whether or not to shoot FMJ, +P or Whatever because it is the best "choice" to get penetration, I have already lost.
Use logic here. If a bullet expands it is bigger. Better chance to hit something good past all that fat, muscle, bone and fascia. If it doesn't expand, less of a chance. Now, if the bullet I'm using can't get to the goodies if it expands, why use it??????? Use a bullet that will get there AND get there while expanded.
I can't help but think that many of the people that defend the .380 are sitting there knowing they are wrong, but won't admit it here because they have defended it for so long and have too much pride to do it. Pride can get you killed.
Jump on me mouse gunners. I got thick skin.