I was referring to the post that was above mine where the guy had a .44 mag that was ported. It's weird how this site puts your post on the bottom of the page and then when you revisit the thread, it's the first post on the next page.
Taurus reminds me of that nursery rhyme, when they are good they are very very good, but when they are bad they are horrid.
Over time I've had two very very good - PT745 and PT138 - but two horrid (censored).
I have seven Taurus® revolvers.
• Mdl 85B2CH 38 Special - 1994
• Mdl 669SS4CP 357 Magnum - 1996
• Mdl 85B2 38 Special - 1997
• Mdl 617SS2 357 Magnum - 2003
• Mdl 605SS3 357 Magnum - 2006
• Mdl 85SS2UL 38 Special - 2007
• Mdl 605SS2 357 Magnum - 2010
All have performed superbly and I continue to shoot them all almost every week.
I have only encountered these problems.........
• Mdl 85B2CH broke a firing pin (part# 19) after 11,000+ rounds. I replaced the firing pin & it's still going strong.
• Mdl 85SS2UL had the cylinder stop (part# 44) wear down after 10,000 rounds. Called Taurus® and they shipped the part right away. Installed new cylinder stop and now the gun works fine.
I have zero complaints with Taurus® customer service. The one time I had to send a gun in they fixed and returned it when they said they would. Specifically.....................
• Mdl 617 developed excessive cylinder to forcing cone gap (.011") after almost 6,000 rounds. I sent it to Taurus® and they replaced the cylinder (part# 8) and adjusted the yoke (part# 9) *I've since put 2,000+ rounds through it and it's still going strong.
I will not hesitate to buy additional Taurus® revolvers. They are an outstanding value.
Here is a wealth of Taurus® information..........
Taurus Firearms Forum - TaurusArmed.net
No man-made mechanical device, or thing, is 113% reliable.
Car, TV, computer, cell phone, toaster, shoes, even something as simple as a ball-point pen. Man makes it, it could be great, it could simply fail. A Bic pen is a name-brand pen that has a reputation as being a better one than < don't know pen brands but I know Bic because they work good so you can incest another brand here >
So like the Bic pen, their are some manufacturers that make things that are very very very reliable! And those that do not. That is why 95% of us know their names, like a Bic.
Because we humans are such an inquisitive species. We read up on stuff, on forums like this, before we buy stuff, most of the time, and reflect on what others whom have bought these things we are shopping for have to say about it, too see what their experience was. It helps us decide what car`s, TV`s, and sometimes even a pen, are or might be, more reliable then others and that can help us decide what we want to buy. Such are firearms too, which brings us all to be reading this here.
You will always hear from more dissatisfied customers then you will those whom are happy with their choice. But there are those that are happy that do let us know, so we to can be happy too!
So you hear more bad then good about some firearms manufactures then you do others. We all know who gets more good reviews then not, and those are the guns most of us will buy. But, if you can't find anything good or bad then it might mean that no one, or not enough have bought it, so maybe you shouldn't either. But then some people buy a firearm and 97% of them like it but it isn't a thing of beauty but it is a joy to behold, and it is 99.999999999% reliable but some will not ever never ever ever never buy one! Yet most say they are hit or miss and lots ah people still buy them?? Don't get that summation but it is what it is
On the subject of Taurus, I haven't bought one so I can't tell you if I got a good one or not. Why??? Because I read that about 78% of those that do buy them have problems and serious issues with them and their CS too, so based on most other peoples experiences, why would I want to subject myself to that, when I can get a Glock, a Ruger, a S&W, a K-T, or a Mossberg, all of whom have a positive track record, all together selling what ever firearm`s I would ever need to buy.
Your Mileage May Very :cartman222:
If he actually looked at the poll run on this very forum about Taurus some time back, he would find that his 78% or actually 77% is the percentage of people that have a favorable view of Taurus guns, or have never had any problems with them.
There is a link to the poll if he cares to read through it or look at the results.
If you disregard the last two, which are simply opinions, the numbers come out to 82% good and 18% bad, roughly.
To me, that 18% is a big number. If I have to pick anything, and the odds are in my favor, I almost always pick wrong. I don't gamble because I can't beat the odds.
I'm the guy that just needs to work harder and stay away from the temptations.
OK ... well statistics and such can say what ever you want if you look at them long enough. Don't get me started on the BCS polls :pokey:
In my travels through; on-line forums, and talking to; shooters at the range, at the gun club I belong to, in gun shops, at shows, in related classes and seminars, gun smiths, hangin around the lodge camp-fire, etc. My resounded conclusions are that a-boot 78% of those that have bought a Taurus Handgun at some point in their life`s have had issues with it. I had one smith tell me that at least 65% of the repair work he does < and he does a lot of smithin - he makes like $$$,$$$.$$ a year and has two people working for him and has reached the point he only works for those he knows, hard to believe myself if I didn't know him ... must be nice > is on Taurus Firearms! He said they have the worst CS he has ever tried to work through! Like I said I have never owned one and you can read my post, #81 for an explanation, or the short of it is ... I'm not taking any chance on one when I can own something else.
I'm only going by what I have read, heard first hand from previous owners, and those that fix um. Then why are they still in business? You can ask that about I'm guessin 75% of the firearms manufacturers that are in business today because 60% of their products if you buy one is, more miss then hit!!!
The smith must have a lot of ignorant customers, since they choose to pay someone to fix a gun that is under warranty, and these customers are only people he knows previously. Wow, tell me where this place is so I can avoid it. :rofl:
farronwolf ^^^ no need he only takes referrals :sport33:
These ignorant customers you so call them, are only lacking the knowledge to stay away from Taurus in the first place.
They buy a Taurus, have a problem and contact CS, even though their purchase IS under warranty, Taurus CS reps tell them in a manor of speaking too go suck eggs < I hear their warranty isn't worth the paper it is written on and the ink isn't telling the truth to some, so I hear first-hand from most of their goofy owners.
So they turn to Mr. Smith; who feeling sorry for these creatures of poor choice, they end up getting their Taurus repaired by him, and it cost them less then it would to pay round-trip-fare to Taurus and back to them again. Let alone any snub in parts, and labor too.
Great Warranty :congrats:
Taurus International Manufacturing Inc, is just what their name imply`s, they may be a Brazilian company, but their parts and assembly take place "International-ly". Kind ah like an American Made Car these days.
Doesn't Taurus pay shipping?
As I've said before, I work in a LGS and do everything I can to discourage people from buying a Taurus. At least not their pistols. These things are junk, in my opinion and the good ones, even though they exist, are few and far between. Taurus pistols are for those who can't afford better quality. Again, just my opinion based on returns at the store and my ownership of a number of their pistols. YMMV.