This is a discussion on Heizer Firearms...a new player on the market within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Its cool looking. All that porting is clever from an appearance point of view. My wrist probably couldn't take it....
Its cool looking. All that porting is clever from an appearance point of view. My wrist probably couldn't take it.
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The niche of this gun is as an ear and nose gun, like the old High Standard double-derringers. Anyone buying it for a primary carry piece, or maybe even as a BUG, might need to rethink. However, as a deep, deep concealment third gun, it has some appeal. Question is, is it really small enough to fill that bill? As to the ports, the flash concerns are misplaced, and recoil reduction IS needed. However, a realistic concern is for getting burned by the ports, if one has to shoot from a close retention position.
At least they offer this gun without the ports.
I don't see a niche for this gun, even as a third gun. I sometimes carry three - a Glock, a PM9, and a LCP - sometimes 2 LCPs and the Glock. Rarely, but I've done it. Like I said before, the only market I see for this gun is for those folks who won't even consider carrying anything smaller in caliber than a .45. Those are the folks who think 2 rounds of .45 are better than 7 of 9mm or .380. Whether there are enough of those folks to keep this company in business remains to be seen.
What really interests me is if they branch out into other kinds of handguns. Maybe something to rival the PM9 or Rohrbaugh R9. THAT would be of interest to me - especially if the price is reasonable ($600 or less).
10th, I'm not altogether sure how one would burn his EYES with the port flash. I've done LOTS of shooting, night and day, with ported and compensated pistols and rifles. One would have to have the gun held within inches of his eyes to burn them with the port exhaust. The most likely sites for a port burn are hands and lower torso, if the gun has to be shot from close retention. I've burned my offside hand with Hybrid Port exhaust when shooting a 10mm custom Commander, due to using poor technique shooting from a Speed Rock. Eye burn seems to me to be a non-issue, unless I'm just missing something.
If only they could get rid of the derringer aspect and have it actually feed like a semi-auto in a frame that small and flat. I wonder if it could handle 4+1, or maybe even just 3+1?
I don't care how punishing to the hand or wrist it is. This is a weapon of last resort, the thing you deploy in bad-breath range, right before somebody gets killed. Shooting comfort is very low on my list of requirements for a tool such as this.
I am intrigued only for its potential.
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A very interesting concept. I really would like to try one.
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If the purpose of this gun is to be a last ditch weapon, you should expect it to be used in unconventional firing positions. Not all shooting is done on your feet, with two hands. Sometimes, you will be on your butt, sitting, flat on your back, or curled into a fetal ball to protect yourself. Having hot gases going anywhere other than away from you is just a bad idea, IMHO.
I know, I know - some folks will claim that they will never get into such a position, they are always in condition yellow, blah blah blah. Stuff happens. And ports are just an unnecessary risk on a defensive handgun.
Another two shooter,,,,, does the world really need more of this type of weapon.
Personally, I am not real comfortable carrying a J-frame 5 shooter; anymore.
Even though this might be a good gun,,,,, a novelty gun,,, it probably
will not sell to great,,,, could be wrong ,,,, but it would not make my "want to
You can buy the Heizer two shot Buck Rogers wrist breaker if you want. Ill keep carrying this instead:
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Its cute, but thats about it...Thanks for sharing HG
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I will check it out. A true pocket gun, or gun of last resort. Nice innovative design, plus there is nothing competing with it. It is too unique. Price might be the only drawback.
Friend of mine bought one sold it bought a Judge
Are you sure about that? He must be special.Friend of mine bought one sold it bought a Judge
From the website...
HEIZER FIREARMS are sold exclusively through select firearms distributors and will be available early 2012.
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I have what I think are better weapons, but I'd consider it. The porting or light weight wouldn't be an issue if I needed it to save my life.
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