This is a discussion on Glock Gen 4 Kaboom within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Okay, guys.. IF you're going to shoot any handgun with a hexagonal barrel do NOT shoot LEAD in it. If you're going to reload, use ...
Okay, guys.. IF you're going to shoot any handgun with a hexagonal barrel do NOT shoot LEAD in it. If you're going to reload, use jacketed or plated at the least. Some people CAN shoot lead, but they are hyper-vigilant over leading in the barrel. If you want to shoot lead, use an aftermarket. Glocks do not kaboom without help.
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Structural failures can be divided into two categories:
1. The force imposed was greater than the material could withstand (by a. inadequate design or b. material defect)
2. The force imposed was greater than the material was designed to withstand.
If 1a, then we would see multiple failures of the same design. If 1b, metallurgical or close inspection would reveal defect.
Most kaboom failures fall into category 2, excessive force caused by excessive pressure, caused by either:
1. exceeding SAAMI standards because of over charged ammo.
2. excessive pressure because of barrel obstruction.
There are a few exceptions but failure analysis generally identifies which of these causes is the culprit.
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The minute somebody says, "my buddie had TWO grenade on him" I know what's going on. I've seen far too many people fire many thousands of rounds through Glocks with zero issues to believe something like that isn't user error.
Not a Glock fanboy here at all, but logic tells you - same guy, two different guns? I'd be looking at the 'same guy' part of the equation first.
Now, I don't know the fella, and I'm not pointing fingers. But, it does seem suspect. If a guy wrecks two different cars made by the same manufacturer, do you blame the car? Ironically, I guy who's done just that. Trust me, it isn't the car.:)
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Oh, like a new factory load can't get over/under loaded? Seems to be a lot of "factory fresh" ammo being recalled in the past couple of years. I've reloaded since '75 in all kinds of calibers, have never had a squib or kaboom, and had two misfires, both from dud primers (it happens, even with the best of manufacturers). I've had more factory duds than that.
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I am wondering if his first Glock blew up due to shooting lead bullets, maybe he was shooting lead bullets prior to shooting the Speer rounds in his second Kaboom? How often does he clean his guns after using lead bullets? I will admit that the only reason I'm reading this thread is because I own the same gun but after reading I feel there isn't enough information from the original poster to blame the gun. I love my gen4 23 and 27 and will keep shooting them with confidence.
Wonder what part of "shooting lead bullets invalidates your warranty" does your friend not understand?
When you combine reloading with Glocks chambered in .40 caliber -- then you throw cast lead bullets into the mix with an OEM poly barrel -- it's not a matter of *if* you'll blow the gun up but only a matter of *when*.
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The first 200,000 KABOOMS were just a coincidense. The last 350,000 may have some merit. Why do people still buy these when there are SOOOOOOOOO many better choices? .......oh wait. LEO's carry them so it HAS to be cool to own one.
shot like 1000's of rounds (no reloads) through my Gen 3 G27 and no problems.. i would say it's more on the user error side. Things built by humans aren't perfect and if you aren't doing your part, they will fail. I've owned things that others deemed to be complete trash and never had problems with them..