3" 1911

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    Here's my RIA compact.



    MY bobtailed full size RIA



    You can get them at Budsgunshop, or Centerfire Systems all day long from $389-$440 You can go ahead and get a full size to carry but personally I don't like the weight of it. The Colts, Kimber and all are really nice and expensive, JMO it's buying the name. My 2 RIA's have been very dependable and it shoots very good also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreinert6 View Post
    hi everyery,
    i would like to start off by asking everyone who knows anything or personaly ownes a compact 1911
    i am in the market for one badly but its hard for me to search google and understand what brands are good or bad and what to goto a gunstore when i get home and ask to look at if they do not have it.
    i am looking to keep the bill under$600 or around so this rules out kimber.
    i would like to know what manufactures make a reputibal compact 1911 for a decent price tag!
    thanks everyone and pics of thoes who own them and carry them will be awesome and what kind of holster you use.

    take care and be safe everyone
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    This is kind of tough because you are severally limiting your options with that price point. I understand that you only have so much to spend and I can appreciate that, but 1911's are a bit more to start with. I would honestly save a little bit and get a Springfield EMP or Colt used or something. It has been redesigned from the ground up and is not just a chopped down version of a 1911. They are pretty darn reliable from my experience as mine has been flawless.
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    thank you all very very much!i dont and no one i know has had any experience with different modle , and size 1911.
    after reading the posts i have come to the conclusion if i cant find a used cold defender for my range that i will have to keep saveing.

    also besides the weight, for concealment is there that much of a difference in the full size to the defender? or am i just getting sucked up in the whole its compact for ccw so its better for me thing?

    thank you again everyoen for the coments!

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    If you can find one and don't mind buying used, look for a Detonics Combat Master. It was the original mini 1911 and my Mk V is a sweet solid shooter

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    3, 4, and 5 inch 1911 comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by kreinert6 View Post
    Also besides the weight, for concealment is there that much of a difference in the full size to the defender? Or am I just getting sucked up in the whole its compact for ccw so its better for me thing?
    There is quite a difference in size between a full size steel 1911 and a 3 inch, aluminum frame 1911, as shown in the picture of 3, 4, and 5 inch 1911s together. The Defender weighs 25 ounces empty, while the full size gun is 38 ounces empty. Concealment is much easier with the 3 inch.

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    I've always preferred a Commander (4 1/4"), over the Officer's (3.5"), guns due to the slightly longer barrel helps to keep the grip in tight to my side where an Officer's sized gun with shorter barrel and grip actually lean's out and is more exposed on my frame; carried IWB. The Officer's reduced grip length is also a little short for my larger hand size. I've owned a 3" Kimber RCP that is about as small as a 1911 can be made with it's abbreviated grip safety, however, it lost some of the ergonomics that make a 1911 so fantastic in the hand.

    When you chop a 1911 down below the Commander length you raise the chances of malfunction, not that there aren't reliable guns under 4 1/4". I carry a full sized Government Combat Elite and appreciate the 5" guns the most.

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    I can attest to the 3 " 1911 being finicky. My Kimber ultra eclipse has had several FTE's which really annoy me. I purchased it used and am uncertain of how used it is. I replaced the extracter and have had no further failures but have only about 60 rounds through it since. It had previously failed about 6 times in 200 rounds. I need to run more ammo through it and especially a good SD load but find the cost prohibitive. I hope I can prove it's reliability because it is a real nice shooter for me. My full size Kimber has never failed in any way.

    If I was to replace it I would probably go with a commander size 1911 or possibly the EMP in 40 cal. For me the full size 1911 is hard to conceal with the longer grip length.

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    Cool

    My son has a Colt Defender for over 10 years and it's runs real good.
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    icic, i might have to findsomeone when im home to try our a fullsize or officer? im sorry im not too sure what names mean what sizes. the 4.5 does anyone cc a 4.5? or fullsize? thinking that since i want a 1911 i should get a 1911 real one rather than a small once was just a curious side of me that liked the mini .45 1911 ide but have realized i mise well get a poyleymer pistol for extream cc. meaning easier to hide, and reliability. unless anyone else has an idea. thanks for all the imput guys just alot wondering though my head lol i wish i had a million dollors so i could but all the guns i wanted

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    New on the shelf is the STI Spartan in 3 and 4 inch. I have the 5" model and it is top notch. I haven't had the pleasure to handle or shoot either of the shorter barrel guns, but STI has excellent products and great customer service. Dawson Precision has the new ones listed at $628.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kreinert6 View Post
    icic, i might have to findsomeone when im home to try our a fullsize or officer? im sorry im not too sure what names mean what sizes. the 4.5 does anyone cc a 4.5? or fullsize? thinking that since i want a 1911 i should get a 1911 real one rather than a small once was just a curious side of me that liked the mini .45 1911 ide but have realized i mise well get a poyleymer pistol for extream cc. meaning easier to hide, and reliability. unless anyone else has an idea. thanks for all the imput guys just alot wondering though my head lol i wish i had a million dollors so i could but all the guns i wanted
    1911's by size and name:
    Government Model = 5" Bbl. full size frame.
    Commander Model = 4 1/4" Bbl. full size frame.
    Concealed Carry Officer's Model = 4 1/4" Bbl. Officer's frame.
    Officer's Model = 3.5" Bbl. Officer's frame.

    Some companies make 4" models rather than the standard Commander 4 1/4" Bbl. and 3" rather than the 3.5" Officer's standard Bbl. In addition there are a few Officer's length slides on full sized Govt./Commander frames around. The Government frame will hold either 7 or 8 rounds of .45 auto depending on the magazine and the Officer's will hold one less with flush fit mags.

    I CC a full sized Government Model Colt Combat Elite and prefer a Govt. Model over the smaller Officer's. Being that the 1911 is such a slim design and that I carry mostly IWB the Bbl. length isn't a factor as it's hidden inside my pants. My preferred holster of choice for a 1911 is the Milt Sparks Summer Special II.

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    I started with a RIA Compact, but now I carry a Colt Defender, as does my son.
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    IMHO, in a 45 1911, I would not use less than a 4" barrel.

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    Kreinert6, Lots of good info here already. I have a Citadel Compact model (3 1/2 barrel) that's one of my main cc guns. Although made by same manufacturer as RIA, I chose the Citadel as it had better sights and a few other upgrades. I also have an American Classis Commander model w/ 4 1/4" barrel. I think the Citadel carries a little easier than the Commander. I shoot both pretty well. On the other hand, I really like the deep blue finish of AC better than the Citadel's Parkerized finish. Most recently I bought a Kahr CW45. It has a polymer frame w/ ss slide and DAO trigger. Weighs only 20 ounces empty. It's nice and thin like the 1911's, but is much lighter. Once it's broken in, it might become my #1 cc gun. After hundreds of rounds, goth the Citadel and AC have been very reliable, as has the Kahr (although it only has 50 rounds through it). You can check the net for prices, but all three should easily come in under $600 w/ plenty left over for ammo. I bought the Kahr last week for only $330 + $25 transfer fee. Good luck w/ your search!

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