stout 38 +P's or soft 357 for sp101

stout 38 +P's or soft 357 for sp101

This is a discussion on stout 38 +P's or soft 357 for sp101 within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I've always wanted a 3 inch sp101, but for some reason, I don't have one. From what I gather, shooting full house 357 out of ...

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    stout 38 +P's or soft 357 for sp101

    I've always wanted a 3 inch sp101, but for some reason, I don't have one. From what I gather, shooting full house 357 out of an sp101 is a handful, but for many it is somewhat manageable. I guess what I am wondering is where the stout +p, or maybe a soft 357, stack up in the shootability/recoil department. I think this would be the range that would suit me well. I already have an LCR 38 that I use for easy carry and standard pressure 38s.

    I've looked at the buffalo bore 38+p, and they do seem intriguing. They have a nice hardcast that I could load up for hiking, and a jhp for carry. Thanks!!


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    I have a 3" SP101. I dont like to really shoot a lot of .38s simply because they dirty up the cylinder pretty bad so I hand load some softer .357s for range time. The full house .357s are pretty stout but I can manage them pretty well. As you mentioned I bought some Buffalo Bore .357 hard cast for woods carry. The versatility of the SP is probaly its greatest attribute. You can feed it whatever you like to suit your needs and recoil tolerance. From soft shooting .38s for range time to 125g jhp for concealed carry to 180g Buffalo Bore for hiking.
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    I'd suggest the Buffalo Bore heavy .38+p stuff myself for that bad boy. I use the standard pressure stuff in my .38s and like it a lot. Here's a link to the side and the round.
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    Like Wormy said with a 357 SP101 you can shoot just about anything you would like, from mild 38's to full power 357's. Slap on a set of hogues and hang on. I had a 2" SP101 357 that I wish I had never sold, the 1911 bug was just biting at me really hard back then. I now have a 3" 327 fed mag SP101 and it is an awesome shooter as well. If you are worried about recoil, the 327 fed mag splits the difference between the 38's and the 357. I also find it very accurate. It gives you some pretty good ballistics and a 6th shot. Although they are pricey to feed.

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    Since you were at the BB web site... did you notice the Tactical Short Barrel Low Flash and Recoil .357 load? It's a great load that I find quite manageable in my S&W 640. It should be fine in an SP. It is worth a look.

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    Speer makes a Gold Dot 135 gr Short Barrel in 357mag thats really nice to shoot. They also have a 38+P 135gr Short barrel if you want to stay with 38.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theheater905 View Post
    Speer makes a Gold Dot 135 gr Short Barrel in 357mag thats really nice to shoot. They also have a 38+P 135gr Short barrel if you want to stay with 38.
    This is true!
    I also like the Buffalo Bore .38+P in 158gr. LSWCHP...that stuff zings downrange at 1,000fps from a 2.5" barrel SP101!
    I also like the Winchester PDX bonded 130gr .38+P.

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    I have a new SP-101 and your right about it being a handful. I'm 70 yrs old and have small hands I don't find it alot of fun to shoot but I'd say its a deadly pistol. Trying to decide if I will keep or work a trade for a 351pd S.W 22mag. For me trying to conceal the SP-101 3' is difficult in a warm climate I'm in SO. NV. Still thinking about it.


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    I usually roll with 125 grain gold sabers.
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    If you just used standard velocity 38 spl lswc bullets, you wouldn't have to worry about this stuff. Low recoil and good penetration gives you just what is needed.
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    I have a Security-six stainless in 357 and I had similar issues until I changed the wood grips to soft rubber grips and it made
    a world of difference. I now shoot it with no pain but my friend has a snubnose ruger 101 with hardrubber grips and that thing is a killer.I just purchased a S+W Bodyguard and it has same type of hard rubber grips and it's the stoutests 38 I've ever shot!

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    How much difference between Golden Sabre 125 gr .38 +P and GS 125 gr .357 in this gun? I've read that the .357 GS is fairly mild, and the GS +P .38 was flashy but easy in my SP101.

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    If you reload try a hard cast 158 grain LSWC behind 6 grains of Unique in .357 mag cases. Good all around load.

    For a carry load I do like the Buffalo Bore +P 158 grain LSWCHP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grouse View Post
    If you reload try a hard cast 158 grain LSWC behind 6 grains of Unique in .357 mag cases. Good all around load.

    For a carry load I do like the Buffalo Bore +P 158 grain LSWCHP.
    I load pretty similar for my 3" SP101. Generally 158 gr cast RNFP and 6.4 gr Unique. That's the only rounds that have been through this revolver in any number for the last year. It's a nice, somewhat mild load in the SP, and my guess (just from early comparisons) is the energy is pretty close to .38 +p loads.

    Just my personal experience, the .38 +p loads in the SP101 result in about the same, or less, recoil as .38 spl range fodder in the lightweight snubs. And, full house .357 magnums in the SP101 are more comfortable than any .38+p ammunition I ran through the S&W Airweights. The difference in the grip angles between the SP and other similar sized revolvers seems to be a factor for many of us.

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