NEW: Springfield XDS Single Stack .45ACP Micro - Page 7

NEW: Springfield XDS Single Stack .45ACP Micro

This is a discussion on NEW: Springfield XDS Single Stack .45ACP Micro within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; ^^^^....this is why the G25 & G28 can not be brought into the States for commercial sale, I believe they scored like 72 or 73 ...

Page 7 of 9 FirstFirst ... 3456789 LastLast
Results 91 to 105 of 127
Like Tree24Likes

Thread: NEW: Springfield XDS Single Stack .45ACP Micro

  1. #91
    Senior Member Array ZX9RCAM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    The Woodlands, Texas
    Posts
    924
    ^^^^....this is why the G25 & G28 can not be brought into the States for commercial sale, I believe they scored like 72 or 73 points.
    If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.

    -Will Rogers

    Im a big fan of the .22LR for bear defense.
    Just shoot the guy next to you in the knee and run like heck.


  2. #92
    VIP Member Array Brass63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    NW Washington
    Posts
    5,562
    The 'import points' regulations explains a lot.
    It all makes sense now.
    The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.

  3. #93
    Senior Member Array Vaquero 45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    882
    Quote Originally Posted by Brass63 View Post
    The 'import points' regulations explains a lot.
    It all makes sense now.
    Not really.

    The Glock 36 is imported. It weighs about 22 ounces empty, with mag. .45 caliber, same as the XDs.
    The Taurus PT745 is 20.8 ounces, with an overall length of six inches. .45 caliber.
    Width of the pistol doesn't seem to be a factor in import points, so it doesn't matter.

    Must be something else.
    Slow is smooth.....smooth is fast.

  4. #94
    VIP Member Array Brass63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    NW Washington
    Posts
    5,562
    Good point. But why don't they import the Glock .380s then?
    Perhaps those models you listed were 'grandfathered' in... or balanced out with other models made by the same manufacturer???
    (e.g. average mpg requirements with the auto makers.)
    The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.

  5. #95
    Senior Member Array Vaquero 45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    882
    No grandfathering or corporate average with BATF import points, as far as I know.
    Looking at the list of import points, .380 gets only 3 points, 9mm and above gets 10.
    Maybe the steel and polymer that they use is as dense as their sales rep.

    Slow is smooth.....smooth is fast.

  6. #96
    Member Array Zepoll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    91
    Quote Originally Posted by zonker1986 View Post
    serious carriers snivel at 1/10" extra width or 2 or 3 oz in weight. May make the difference whether you can carry the gun all day or it becomes a safe queen. Newbies always think they can 24/7 carry a 60oz Desert Eagle.....and I just nod my head and grin. Yeah, sure. Check back with me next month and let me know how its goin' for ya.
    Agreed.

    And another thing... don't think of it as just ounces... think of it as a percentage. When compared to the CW45 the XDS weighs 30% more and has 15% less fire power.

  7. #97
    Senior Member Array zero's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    NM
    Posts
    902
    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    I'd like to compare it with the Kahr CW45.
    PM45 as well.

  8. #98
    Senior Member
    Array Armydad's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    553
    I have yet to see anything about the weight being loaded or unloaded. Clarification of that will help. Someone mentioned it as a pocket gun. Rob Leatham indicated IWB not pocket carry to which this makes sense. As to round counts, you guys are brutal. I wold take 6 rounds of 45 ACP rather than 5 rounds of anything else in a revolver and I like revolvers. But, the revolver is not less than one inch wide. I am totally amazed at the snobbery within the gun community. My stand is if it goes bang and you like it, then it is a good gun. If and company comes out with an undesirable product the market will take care of that due to lack of sales. That is called free market economy. Shame on us for trashing people/products who are actually on our side!

  9. #99
    VIP Member Array tokerblue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    CT
    Posts
    2,382
    Quote Originally Posted by Armydad View Post
    I have yet to see anything about the weight being loaded or unloaded. Clarification of that will help.
    - It was mentioned in the earlier review that I linked that 29 oz is unloaded.

    Quote Originally Posted by Armydad View Post
    I am totally amazed at the snobbery within the gun community. My stand is if it goes bang and you like it, then it is a good gun. If and company comes out with an undesirable product the market will take care of that due to lack of sales. That is called free market economy. Shame on us for trashing people/products who are actually on our side!
    - I don't think anyone wants the Springfield XDS to have poor sales. Most complaints are about it's weight compared to its two closest competitors. The Kahr CW45, PM45 and the Glock 36. The Kahr CW45 is American made, lighter and holds one more round. The Glock 45 is also lighter and is a proven handgun. IMO, it doesn't even favor comparable to their own double stack compact. Thinner, but same weight?

  10. #100
    VIP Member Array Cuda66's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    minnesota
    Posts
    2,370
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaquero 45 View Post
    Not really.

    The Glock 36 is imported. It weighs about 22 ounces empty, with mag. .45 caliber, same as the XDs.
    The Taurus PT745 is 20.8 ounces, with an overall length of six inches. .45 caliber.
    Width of the pistol doesn't seem to be a factor in import points, so it doesn't matter.

    Must be something else.
    Actually, the weight IS a factor in the points.

    The Glock and Taurus may weigh less, but they get additional points for things such as capacity, size, barrel length, etc.

    On another forum, somebody did the rundown and the XD-S barely made the 75 points required.
    There are no dangerous weapons; there are only dangerous men.--RAH

    ...man fights with his mind; the weapons are incidental.--Jeff Cooper


    There is a reason they try and make small bullets act like big bullets--Glockmann10mm

  11. #101
    Senior Member
    Array Armydad's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    553
    Thank you tokerblue for your response. It still irritates me at how many people are instantly critics especially of brands that they don't like or use. I honestly do not feel that it is constructive and is just snobbery. I don't like the Glock line as I don't like the safety system and it doesn't fit my hand very well. But for a weapon it is a great gun and well proven. However I never trash the Glock line like some do to other brands just simply because they do not work the best for me. Now on to other items. I did not know of the import criteria prior to this thread and thank everyone for their input as I have learned something. It is amazing how much red tape that our government has put into place.
    NIS350ZTT likes this.

  12. #102
    Member Array stolivar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    213

    and

    Quote Originally Posted by Zepoll View Post
    Agreed.

    And another thing... don't think of it as just ounces... think of it as a percentage. When compared to the CW45 the XDS weighs 30% more and has 15% less fire power.
    has about half the recoil and is manageable in recoil. I fired the cw45 and it is not manageable at all.


    steve
    NIS350ZTT likes this.

  13. #103
    Member Array NIS350ZTT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    South GA
    Posts
    244
    Quote Originally Posted by stolivar View Post
    has about half the recoil and is manageable in recoil. I fired the cw45 and it is not manageable at all.


    steve
    Exactly, everyone seems to want a 8oz .45 pocket pistol and then have it shoot like a dream.

    However, this gun had me extremely interested until I saw the weight. For my use it does not fit. I need a small pistol and something that weighs less than my 29oz S&W 639 to carry in lightweight shorts for putting the trash out or running through the drive-through for dinner.

    I think for strictly IWB this would be perfect, as the weight will really help soak up the recoil.

  14. #104
    New Member Array jnug's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    New Hampshire
    Posts
    3
    Hi guys, I am new here. Live in a state where we can carry thankfully.

    First i wanted to commend you guys for mentioning the points issue. I have been looking at many different boards looking for info on this new gun and everybody is mentioning the weight which I can understand I guess. Had not seen the points thing mentioned elsewhere.

    I think one of the first things I noticed when I started to carry was the weight even more than the bulk and I am not a very big guy. The weight was still more noticeable to me than the bulk.

    Wondering if anybody thinks that the increased use of EDC bags has created more of a market for something like the XDs. I have an EDC bag that I use on and off. However, even the good ones don't seem to me to give you a tremendous amount of room. I could see weight being less of an issue than bulk for someone using an EDC bag regularly. Maybe that is one of the market components that Springfield sees for this gun.

  15. #105
    Senior Member Array MilitaryArms's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    553
    Please visit my YouTube channel: The Military Arms Channel

Page 7 of 9 FirstFirst ... 3456789 LastLast

Sponsored Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Search tags for this page

springfield armory xds
,

springfield armory xds release date

,
springfield xds
,

springfield xds 3.3

,
springfield xds 45 for sale
,

springfield xds for sale

,

springfield xds release date

,
xds 45
,

xds 45 for sale

,
xds 45 release date
,

xds release date

,
xds springfield
Click on a term to search for related topics.