Colt 1911 question

Colt 1911 question

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    Colt 1911 question

    As most have probably noticed I was comparing a springfiield loaded service with a dan wesson pointman 7 in another thread. I was just looking at the colts and noticed the XSE government it priced between those two. I'm not real sure about the colts and I have read about series 70's, 80's and 1991's. Which is the xse government model? What's the opinion on how the colts compare against the others named above?



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    Way to open the can O worms !

    Colt IS the original 1911 , they are the standard as far as
    building to spec.

    So of course you pay a bit more for a Colt than other brands.
    Personally , I would not worry about a $100-$150 price
    difference in a gun that will last for your lifetime.

    Some people do not like the safety lock system built into
    the newer Colts ( 80 series and newer )

    Some other brands come with a better cosmetic finish , and
    more features for the price , but short of a custom built 1911
    you will get what you pay for with any of the top Brands.
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    Yep, I understand that colt is the original and they cost more. This one is actually a little less than the DW I was looking at though and about 50.00 more than the SA I was looking at.

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    Good way to research Colt 1911s...

    A good way to research Colt 1911s is to go to the 1911 forum, where there is a chat section devoted to that brand:

    1911 forum - Colt section

    I have had good experiences with Colt 1911s myself. I got my first one about 16 years ago, and now own 8 of them - 6 1911s and 2 revolvers. I shoot them all the time at the range, and have carried a couple of the smaller ones. I would recommend the brand.

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    I've got a plain-jane Combat Commander that I bought about eight months ago. Here's the good:

    - It's been dead reliable and acceptably accurate. It won't punch one hole groups at 50 yards, but it will chew out the center of an 8" target at 25' which is good enough for me.

    And the bad:

    - The pinned front sight came loose after only two months. It hasn't come off, but it is definitely loose.

    - The hammer is off-center enough to rub the side of the frame.

    - The trigger is sloppy and heavy.

    - One of the grip panels was very poorly checkered when I bought it.

    When I bought the gun, I called Colt about the grip panel. They sent me a new set of grips with the Colt medallion in them free of charge. I sent the whole gun back to Colt about two months ago to get the off-center hammer and the front sight repaired. The reimbursed me for shipping (once I asked them to) and fixed the hammer. The sight, however, is still loose. So if you're looking at a Colt with a pinned front sight, plan on having it replaced. Also, it's probably going to need a trigger job. Other than that, they're great pistols.
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    I have read about series 70's, 80's and 1991's. Which is the xse government model?
    The XSE is a Series 80 action (firing pin block) .
    I have Colt's Government Models ranging from 1913 manufacture to 2005, I'm very impressed with the new Colt's coming out of West Hartford, CT.
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    Also, it's probably going to need a trigger job.
    Not necessarily,
    1994 – 01991Z – 4.0lbs.
    2000 - 1991A1 (ORM) - 4.75lbs.
    2002 - 1911A1 Repro. - 4.5lbs.
    2002 - Series 70 reissue - 4.25lbs.
    2005 - 01991 (NRM) - 4.0lbs.
    Those are factory pulls and are fairly crisp for stock.
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    I have the exact same pistol you pictured.....
    I have been well pleased with mine, very accurate and nice lookiing pistol...
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    Thanks for the replies guys, more to think about.

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    I have 2 xse's good pistols also have 2 springer laoded either is a good pistol but i would get the colt

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    I have the exact same pistol you pictured.....
    I have been well pleased with mine, very accurate and nice lookiing pistol...
    I second that...

    its one of my favorites and it carrys well...
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    Thanks for the replies guys. One thing I'm curious about though is the one I have pictured shows it with basic GI sights and the ones at Colt's link appear to have novak(?) looking sights. Carry sights I think they are called. Which did yours come with?
    Last edited by saltysquid; August 22nd, 2006 at 11:13 PM.

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    My xse's both bought in the last 3 months came with novak looking low mount sights

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    Mine bought a few years ago looks exactly like the sights in the one pictured...but mine is a Combat Commander
    I would rather stand against the cannons of the wicked than against the prayers of the righteous.


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    Thanks, and that reminds me of another question hotguns. I see the government is 5" and the combat commander is 4 1/4". They are pretty close to the same price, so is there any andvantage to going either way? I may carry it some, but 3/4" doesn't seem that much of a difference to me. Is there any big advantage or benefits that one has over the other?

    Sorry to keep stringing out the questions like this, but my brain has been in a trickle mode for several years now.:)

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