Question about the legality on the 3.5lb disconnector on carry glocks.

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    Question about the legality on the 3.5lb disconnector on carry glocks.

    Ok im not sure if this is the right place to post this. and I'm hoping to get feed back from any LEOs or lawyers on here. So all my glocks have the 3.5lb disconnectors on them. I like the way it makes the trigger feel. more smooth than lighter. Anyway, I was reading an article by masaa ayoob, in which he stated that you should never lighten the trigger on you carry gun. Is this true?

    So I put the stock disconnector back in my g17 until I could find out the true legalities.

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    I don't think its illegal, but a good anti lawyer might argue that you made the mod to the gun so you could shoot people. I keep all my guns stock as they come from the gun maker.
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    Until a compelling argument can be made that the different connector makes the product less safe or more likely to negligently or accidentally discharge, I'm sticking with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skysoldier29 View Post
    I don't think its illegal, but a good anti lawyer might argue that you made the mod to the gun so you could shoot people. I keep all my guns stock as they come from the gun maker.
    I asked my lawyer, and he isn't worried about it, either.

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    Who's gonna know the difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    I asked my lawyer, and he isn't worried about it, either.
    Good deal then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zacii View Post
    Who's gonna know the difference?
    Precisely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacii View Post
    Who's gonna know the difference?
    The firearms expert who examines the gun after the shooting. They will then send a report to the police and prosecutors office as to the findings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skysoldier29 View Post
    The firearms expert who examines the gun after the shooting. They will then send a report to the police and prosecutors office as to the findings.
    And then what? Wanting a more accurate, consistent trigger pull should be easy enough to establish, and defend.
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    Is it legal? Yes it is. So is jacking up a pick up truck to the point you need a step ladder to get into it. Is it the smart thing to do? Probably not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skysoldier29 View Post
    I don't think its illegal, but a good anti lawyer might argue that you made the mod to the gun so you could shoot people. I keep all my guns stock as they come from the gun maker.
    Skysoldier, you're right about it being legal (in most states), but I would have no problem telling a judge that I modified my trigger to make it easier to shoot people. Everyone has the right to defend themselves and their loved ones. It might be a factor if you're being tried in court for shooting a conference room full of coworkers and your boss with a "modified super weapon". But, if you act responsibly with your firearm and concealed carry permit... any self defense scenario that you're involved in will likely be blatantly justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    And then what? Wanting a more accurate, consistent trigger pull should be easy enough to establish, and defend.
    It's not easy if you don't have a good lawyer. Its just not me saying it either, masaa ayoob one of the fore most gun experts is staying it to. I wouldn't want to make any trigger mods and run the risk of some anti DA trying to make and example out of me for using it.

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    Remember Ayoob is from the socialist NE and embodies a lot of 1970's liberal nonsense into some of his advice. As long as your not in one of the socialist states where you're guilty until proven innocent and it's a justified shoot you're good to go.

    Now someone show me just one case where a person who lightened the trigger pull on their firearm was convicted of ? for that act.
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    To paraphrase (probably badly) something MitchellCT once posted - if you get to the point in your trial where the ammo you used or the trigger pull of your gun is being discussed, you're already done.

    Trigger pull might become a factor if you claim you accidentally shot someone. But if the trigger actuation was intentional, the weight of the trigger is irrelevant - it was a deliberate act whether it took 2 pound of force or 12 pounds of force.

    Besides, the 3.5 disconnector by itself (without changing any springs) drops the pull to about 5.5 pounds. It's not that big a difference.

    That said, both of my Glocks (the 34 I shoot in IDPA and the 19 I carry) have the same 3.5 pound LW disconnectors in them.

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    All of these what-will-a-DA-say? questions are great, but let's just remember the most important thing, getting to a trial means you and or your loved ones are alive, and really, that's what matters. Secondly, if you truly were legally defending your life from some creep, bad guy, or Lex Luther himself, why would a DA want to prosecute you? Being conscious of legal matters is very important, but at the same time I would not create 'what if' stories about something that has never proven to be a problem (at least to my knowledge).

    DA: "Why did you put a 3.5lb trigger in your gun? Were you trying to make it easier to shoot people?"

    Defendent who legally defended himself and is now for some unknown reason standing trial: "Obviously"
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