This is a discussion on Calibers near 9mil for carrying within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by sgb M&P 9c - the Mrs gun M&P 9C.....almost the perfect first gun. New shooters I loan mine at the range ususally ...
Glock 19 or M&P 9
get you one of these, a holster from a reputable maker, and some professional training. Then you'll have a better understanding of carrying and shooting a pistol. Then you'll know better what you want in a carry piece.
don't let anyone fool you, with the right belt and holster, anyone can carry anything So don't settle for a smaller pistol if your only fear is the ability to conceal it.
commander size pistols are very easy to conceal and shoot for extended periods of time.
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You really need to go to a range that rents guns,perferably with a buddy that maybe knows something about guns. Try a variety of guns, different calibers and styles. With small hands you probably need to shy away from double stack semi's. Don't discount revolvers many smaller handed people find them to be my comfortable in their hand and easier to shoot.
One other thing, don't buy the first gun that feels right. Keep looking and trying different ones. You'll know when it's right for you. Most people never buy the "right" gun as their first.
The bersa thunder is a great gun for the money. I have one and carry it from time to time. Go with what fits your hand well. I am to a smallish guy I also have a springfield xdsc 9mm and shoot it well and really like it. But for summer weather Im looking into the slim 9mm pistols such as walther pps taurus slim beretta nano and others. And Ive always liked the 9mm for some strange reason or another. Good luck with your choice.
I too have relatively small hands. Check out a weapon with a single stack magazine for a slightly smaller grip. Also consider a heavier weapon, it makes shooting much easier because the weight helps tame the recoil. A Sig P239 might be worth looking at, but it's not one of the cheaper brands.
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Same advice from me. I own both and I like both.
9mm has plenty of power. There is no need to go bigger, you can get high performance 9mm ammo if you want to. If you really want to go with a bigger caliber I would suggest the .45 Auto. It is easier to shoot than the .40, I would skip the .40 all together especially in smaller compact pistols.
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You might also look at the CZ 82. They are Military/Police pistols from Czech Republic. They show holster wear but other than that are in excellent condition. Double stack magazine holds 12 rounds, giving you a 12+1 capability. They are chambered in 9mm Makarov.
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So many options many over priced over hyped some not.
Ruger offers a long line of good ones so does S&W. all good US made cost effective weapons.
Don't discount revolvers to quickly nothing wrong with a good CC 38SP.
you need to find one you will carry the wrong one will stay at home after a while.
You must learn to use what ever you buy.
The recoil between a 9 and a 380 is pretty darn close. A bigger, heavier weapon is what will likely make the difference in recoil.
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Your choice seems reasonable. A 9mm is a very good choice, especially for those who cannot shoot a revolver well or have weak hands that inhibit a smooth DA trigger stroke.
Since simplicity and ease of operation seem to be the main criteria for you, I would recommend any of the safe action striker fired auto pistols. One can learn to shoot them to a mediocre degree of profieciency without too much trouble, they are uncomplicated, and well suited for the degree of pistol craft mediocrity that most subscribe to this day and age.
For the new pistolaro, they are perfect. With a high capacity magazine, even the determined greenhorn can play the law of averages with a high probability of at least hitting something with one of the 10-17 rounds at his/her disposal.
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