Just FWIW: What state troopers carry...
This is a discussion on Just FWIW: What state troopers carry... within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; This is a pretty well confirmed and up-to-date list of what 'state patrols' carry as gun brands and caliber. Although I won't disclose the source, ...
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February 7th, 2012 01:06 PM
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February 7th, 2012 01:06 PM
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February 7th, 2012 01:18 PM
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Only two 9mm??? LOL
disclaimer: No, I dont have anything against the 9mm and think it is a very effective round but with all the caliber wars I have read about I thought it might be at least a little humorous to say.
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February 7th, 2012 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Only two 9mm??? LOL
disclaimer: No, I dont have anything against the 9mm and think it is a very effective round but with all the caliber wars I have read about I thought it might be at least a little humorous to say.
Yep, and as a guy said that has connections with a lot of LE, he is seeing a number of agencies returning to the 9mm - probably a cost thing as much as anything.
But, realize this is just 'states'; cities might be different.
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February 7th, 2012 01:21 PM
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I need to know what the fascination with .40 S&W is?
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February 7th, 2012 01:26 PM
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February 7th, 2012 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I need to know what the fascination with .40 S&W is?
I wouldn't call the .40 a 'fascination' when about half the state agencies (including Minnesota's) in the US are using it. Did you miss the trend away from 9mms that took root starting over a decade ago?
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February 7th, 2012 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I wouldn't call the .40 a 'fascination' when about half the state agencies (including Minnesota's) in the US are using it. Did you miss the trend away from 9mms that took root starting over a decade ago?
Yeah, but at the same time, I know of LEO that are perfectly content with the performance of their 9mms. There's a county, Prince something, that has more shootings than any other county in the US. LEO is using 124 gn 9mm, can't remember the brand now but it's a well known brand and they are getting, as Ernst Langdon put it, a lot of down or dead right there stops.
Let's remember too, that as the .40 was introduced, 'we' began to understand more about shootings, placement, etc. So newer training methods and techniques may have made the .40 look more effective than it really was.
I found it intriguing that New Mexico switched from the .357 sig to .40 for costs. Kinda sounds like they had the better performing bullet, but costs.....And I don't really know that the .357 sig is better than a .40, but I think it is.
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February 7th, 2012 03:25 PM
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Where did all the wheel guns go? Not a single state agency is using them. JK
I was surprised to see the prevalence of .40 cal. I knew it was popular, but not that popular.
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February 7th, 2012 03:35 PM
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I wouldn't call the .40 a 'fascination' when about half the state agencies (including Minnesota's) in the US are using it. Did you miss the trend away from 9mms that took root starting over a decade ago?
I guess I don't really see the point of .40 S&W. Its marginally more effective than 9mm yet costs more. If you are looking for "stopping power" go up to the .45 ACP. If the capacity of those guns is an issue, train better shot placement and save the cash and use the 9mm.
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February 7th, 2012 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by
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"stopping power"
Invalid argument. No medical professional can tell you what caliber was used by looking at the wound channel. No handgun round has stopping power.
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February 7th, 2012 04:02 PM
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Invalid argument. No medical professional can tell you what caliber was used by looking at the wound channel. No handgun round has stopping power.
I wasn't making that argument....hence the ("") around the phrase.
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February 7th, 2012 04:13 PM
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My brother in law is a county sheriff and they switched to a 45 ACP last year. I am not sure what model pistol. They had 40 S& W and the department was not happy with it. He also has an M-16 in his squad with at least 10 full mags.
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February 7th, 2012 04:28 PM
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting!
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February 7th, 2012 04:31 PM
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Kentucky State Police also carries the G27 as a backup.
And, yes, thanks for posting!
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February 7th, 2012 04:32 PM
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I am surprised to see the .357 sig and the .45 gap on the list.
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