This is a discussion on M&P 9c within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; EDIT: OP, sorry for the thread hijack! [/QUOTE]
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February 10th, 2012 03:38 PM
EDIT: OP, sorry for the thread hijack! [/QUOTE]
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February 10th, 2012 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by AZ Hawk
First bold: The reason why I mentioned the OP reasoning for wanting another slide stop different from the glocks.
Second bold: If someone is charging you with a knife and you have a double feed, you are getting stabbed, your method or anyother method doesn't matter. The guy in the video I posted cleared his double feed in 3 seconds using the method I mentioned.
Third bold: The main reason why I do, and everyone should carry atleast one spare magazine.
Last bold: I agree completely, and yes, sorry for the hijack!
"When that gun comes out of that holster; it's business time." -Chris Costa
February 10th, 2012 04:06 PM
Do you not practice "getting off the X?" You should never allow someone with a knife to be close enough to you that they can stab you, and you should never be standing still in a close range SD situation unless you have cover. Standing still = getting dead.
Originally Posted by All_Business
Yeah, he can do it in three seconds because he's able to do it under ideal conditions. A gunfight is not an ideal condition, and if he plans on standing still while someone is shooting at him from 5 feet away or 5 feet away with a knife about to stab him, he's dead anyways.
Try this: Set up a double feed with snap caps in your gun and holster it. Then, get your heartbeat into the black zone (160-200 bpm depending on age), draw your gun, start sprinting, then fix your malfunction.
And yes, you should carry a spare magazine for reliability purposes.
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February 10th, 2012 04:17 PM
Crowbait: You and I must be the only two people on this site that LOVE that quote from "red haired" TJ--- of blessed memory!
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February 10th, 2012 07:49 PM
While I agree with snap caps being effective for most clearing drills, it's predicable and not all ways the same as a real malfunction. The last firearm I had that was full of stove pipes and jams was a Gen 4 Glock 17 and let me tell you it was not always easy to clear them. A few of the malfunctions would have left me dead if they did not happen at a range. This is not a bash on Glock, it's just the only gun I owned in a while that has had major malfunctions.
Originally Posted by AZ Hawk
Since this thread blew up and started with me posting about having an extended slide stop on my Glocks. It's not because I use a slide release for actual shooting, I like having one for inspection and general handling purposes. I use a magpul over the top method when shooting.
I wish Glock when have stepped up with an AMBI one like the M&P though! Now why are the aftermarket slide release/slide stops are so poplar with other Glock owners? The stock slide stop sucks, and many of those folks may shoot competition. Slide release is definitely faster then a tactical over the hand or sling shot method.
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