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This is a discussion on please.get my mind right about safeties within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by RugerMike When the excrement hits the oscillating device, all I want to worry about is putting the front sight on the bad ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RugerMike View Post
    When the excrement hits the oscillating device, all I want to worry about is putting the front sight on the bad guy and squeezing the trigger. That is why I carry a Glock 19. I think if a person is used to a 1911, or another platform with a thumb safety, you can certainly ingrain that into your muscle memory, but I happen to choose the simpler platform. This is up to personal preference and your own risk/reward perspective on the issue.
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    I'm with the majority here. I don't want any manual safety on my defensive firearms. I simply want to point and pull the trigger.

    During the last two seasons duck hunting, I've missed several shots simply because I forgot to take the safety off my shotgun. Since I hunt with several other people, safeties are always on until it's time to shoot. The problem is that in the excitement of the moment, it's easy to forget the simplest things. The good thing is that those weren't life and death situations.
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    My K-Tec P-11, S&W M&P9c, S&W Sigma 9, DO NOT have safeties, save for the hinged triggers on the M&P and Sigma.

    I just Picked up a S&W 6906 and a 6904, both with decockers.
    I would carry the decocker pistols with the firearm ready to fire, without having to de-activate the decocker.
    I would however, NOT have a pistol for SD that had an actual "safety" which would have to be fumbled with, in order to fire it.

    But, like all things of this earth, this is a subjective personal matter with which YOU must come to terms with.
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    I took the thumb safety OFF my M&P9C and installed frame plugs. It is much better this way. Another thing I found when carrying with a thumb safety, a lot of times it gets snagged on clothes or whatever and gets putt in the "off" position sometimes. My M&P only goes bang when I deliberately pull the trigger. If you have a holster that is good quality and covers the trigger, that is all you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    When you NEED you gun to go "RIGHT NOW"...you shouldn't be fumbling with a safety. If you're carrying with the safety off, that means you don't need a safety. Not to mention, high-stress = fine motor skills diminish. Go with the internal (drop) safeties (Glock, SIG, H&K) or maybe a grip safety (XD).

    If you're worried about whether you will be "safer" with an external safety, the problem isn't the gun...

    Regardless of what you purchase--seek training beyond what is required for a permit. Learn how to employ the gun--not just punch holes in paper.

    Just the one on the holster, right?

    Because when I need my gun, I need to get it right now and not be fumbling with some button to get my gun out...


    Just say'n.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbergsing View Post
    I'm only about two months in to CCW. I carry a M&P9c w/o the thumb safety. However, as a precaution and until I am confident I will keep that booger picker off the bang switch until the time is right, I do not carry with one in the chamber. I practice my draw three times a week and am growing more comfortable with my draw with each practice but I'm not ready to carry with one in the chamber quite yet.

    Just my $.02....
    If you put chambering a round into your drawing muscle memory you will never really have to chamber a round. The difference in speed between drawing and racking and just drawing is really quite small if you are memoried into it. A problem could arise if there ever was on in the chamber you would be so used to rack 'n' track that you will eject a perfectly good round.

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    The last thing I need if I am forced to use my carry weapon is to have to think about a safety. DA/SA autos make the question easy, same as revolvers. I only own one handgun with a safety, a PPK/s, and I only use it as a decocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    Just the one on the holster, right?

    Because when I need my gun, I need to get it right now and not be fumbling with some button to get my gun out...


    Just say'n.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitReaver View Post
    If you put chambering a round into your drawing muscle memory you will never really have to chamber a round. The difference in speed between drawing and racking and just drawing is really quite small if you are memoried into it. A problem could arise if there ever was on in the chamber you would be so used to rack 'n' track that you will eject a perfectly good round.
    One big problem for those that carry without a round chambered. Your weak hand might not be available because you're using it to fight the BG off, or it may be injured, or it could be pinned down and you can't chamber a round effectively. All these examples go away if a round is chambered. Just Sayen....
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    Welcome to the forum.

    As to your question, it would depend on the gun. A 1911, or any other semi auto that you plan to carry cocked, then you definitely want a safety on it. If it is a double action you will be carrying with the hammer down, a safety is not something you need on it, but if it is there, no biggie. A striker fired gun, I see no reason for an external safety on it at all.
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    My M&P 9 has the external safety, and I like having it. You just need to practice with it, so you won't forget to take it off it under stress.

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    I own CC guns with external safeties and passive safeties. But, the only "safety" I truly rely on is my "brain".

    "Train-the-brain" correctly and you can adapt & overcome almost anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BitReaver View Post
    If you put chambering a round into your drawing muscle memory you will never really have to chamber a round. The difference in speed between drawing and racking and just drawing is really quite small if you are memoried into it. A problem could arise if there ever was on in the chamber you would be so used to rack 'n' track that you will eject a perfectly good round.
    To me this thread isn't about carrying with one in the chamber or not. That has been covered to death on this forum. But carrying on an empty chamber is about the dumbest thing you can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbergsing View Post
    I'm only about two months in to CCW. I carry a M&P9c w/o the thumb safety. However, as a precaution and until I am confident I will keep that booger picker off the bang switch until the time is right, I do not carry with one in the chamber. I practice my draw three times a week and am growing more comfortable with my draw with each practice but I'm not ready to carry with one in the chamber quite yet.

    Just my $.02....
    Carrying without a round in the chamber is just short of not carrying at all in my opinion. Train like you fight (as the Army says).
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    Guys, lets keep it on the mechanical saftey topic...any other "chamber commentary" will be axed.

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