Grandma's House Gun

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    My suggestion would be the FN 5.7. God Bless

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    I like the idea of keeping the pointy end of a firearm as far away from her head as possible and was thinking that with a 410 and a forward vertical grip there might be less chance of her shooting hetself. With a snub I think she would be waving it around too much. I want the BG to see the shotgun and take off before Granny has to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorblade View Post
    She is elderly, small and kind of frail (maybe 95 lbs wet).
    She won't be able to master any external controls or rack a slide.
    She will likely be very recoil sensitive, have a weak grip etc.
    She probably won't take any safety precautions too seriously.
    Your description of her makes this easy, throw me in with the "don't get gramma a gun" a gun crowd.

    Realistically, who here really thinks this elderly lady would be able to wield a shotgun, a snubby, or really ANY firearm safely? If you won't take firearm safety seriously than you shouldn't own one, that goes for everyone.

    It can be a delicate issue, but there is a point where a elderly person should not operate
    complex/dangerous machines like automobiles, firearms, etc, that could endanger others or themselves.

    I'd go with a good dog.
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    I think the Ruger LCR .22 is a great choice, light gun, light trigger, and 10 shots of CCI Velociters.....

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    Maybe let the UPS guy know that she's packin'! Couldn't resist, but all kidding aside the .410 sounds like a good answer In essence, she is safe as can be in that community,so the gun becomes a last-line of defense sort of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorblade View Post
    Recently my father in law passed away and my elderly mother in law wants a firearm to keep around the house...
    ...She probably won't take any safety precautions too seriously...

    Any Suggestions??
    I was about to share some details about my 80+ y.o. Mom's gun, 'til I saw the safety precautions comment. This is an absolute deal-breaker. With all due respect to your M-I-L, all these guys suggesting various guns need to re-think their positions! No guns for mother-in-law, Please! Stick with the dog, taser, and/or pepper spray approach.

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    What is all this she is old and can't be trusted with a firearm.
    She has every right to have a gun if she wants one.
    Do you think she should not have any knives, matches, etc.
    Old people are not young children, and most are capable of being safe.
    There are alot of old folks that have defended there self with a gun.

    A single shot 410 is what I would recommend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BkCo1 View Post
    Take her out and let her try a few guns. I think a revolver in .22 magnum or .327 magnum might work but you need to see what she likes. My wife surprised me when she said she wanted something bigger than her .380. She wanted an LC9. I didn't think she could handle it. I was wrong again.
    Also let Granny shoot targets close. It builds confidence and fun when they can see they are hitting the target.
    A nice heavy SP101 327 mag loaded with 32 Long is a great little plinker with hardly any recoil. A full up .327 mag load at 500 ft-lbs is not a light load by any stretch. However, double action trigger weight may be too much.

    Definitely take her to a range. It may be great fun or it may change her mind. Win Win!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1959 View Post
    What is all this she is old and can't be trusted with a firearm.
    She has every right to have a gun if she wants one.
    Do you think she should not have any knives, matches, etc.
    Old people are not young children, and most are capable of being safe.
    There are alot of old folks that have defended there self with a gun.

    A single shot 410 is what I would recommend.


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^

    In my opinion would only make a BG mad, and his one or two buddies ALSO charging through the door, Take it from her, and beat her over the head with it, once her single shot is used up.

    Big can of OC spray.
    Any grandkids old enough to live with her wanna hang out with gramma for a while??

    If nothing else, I'm for the Kel Tec .22 WMR., or a big .38 revolver.

    I give up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^

    In my opinion would only make a BG mad, and his one or two buddies ALSO charging through the door, Take it from her, and beat her over the head with it, once her single shot is used up.

    Big can of OC spray.
    Any grandkids old enough to live with her wanna hang out with gramma for a while??

    If nothing else, I'm for the Kel Tec .22 WMR., or a big .38 revolver.

    I give up.
    You should give up after that statement.

    In your mind she would take out all three of your bad guys with her 38.

    A 410 with buck shot or a slug will do alot more then that 38.

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    My oldest sister is 70 yrs old. She is 90 lbs... when she's soaking wet and holding a 10 lb bag, skinny as a rail, and has arthritic hands, etc. . A duck doesn't make it 20 ft before she'll blast it out of the air with a 12 ga pump. Her 2nd shot, will net a 2nd duck. My sister also has a .38 and .357 revolver at home for added protection. She's a great shot with both. She can rack a semi, just doesn't like them.

    Don't under-estimate your mother-in-law, let her decide what works for her ... and don't make too many assumptions.

    My granddaughter wont' shoot either .410, she says they kick to hard. She would much rather shoot a .28 or 20 ga. Some .410's have some real kick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1959 View Post
    You should give up after that statement.

    In your mind she would take out all three of your bad guys with her 38.

    A 410 with buck shot or a slug will do alot more then that 38.
    ^^^^^^^
    What I'm speaking of in reference to is, that if she is limited to a single shot ANYTHING, it may do her more harm than good.
    Single shot while hunting. .........OK.
    Single shot while defending oneself and ones castle, especially if shes alone
    Not so OK,,,,,OK?

    Please read and think through what others are posting about, before taking them to task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1959 View Post
    What is all this she is old and can't be trusted with a firearm.
    She has every right to have a gun if she wants one.
    Do you think she should not have any knives, matches, etc.
    Old people are not young children, and most are capable of being safe.
    There are alot of old folks that have defended there self with a gun.

    A single shot 410 is what I would recommend.
    Age (in itself) has nothing to do with it. But Rotorblade knows his mother-in-law better than any of us here do. He observes that, "She probably won't take any safety precautions too seriously." If he believes that, then providing a gun to her is irresponsible; bordering on criminal negligence.

    My Mom is 86, but she has her wits about her 100%, and she is VERY safety conscious. She totes a .38 snub in her apron pocket (and is a crack shot with it). She has also conceded that when my sister, my brother-in-law, or I decide that she's no longer able to handle a gun safely, she will stop. She's no longer living by herself in an isolated location, so it's not as big an issue now, anyway.

    There are plenty of old folks who, through no fault of their own, should NOT drive, or have guns, knives, or matches, unsupervised. That's not a matter of "rights", it's a matter of common sense.

    ...And for those who still CAN safely handle a firearm, a single-shot anything is a bad, bad choice for personal defense.

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    Get her a can of wasp spray backed up by a Ruger 10/22.

    IMO, Ruger 10/22 is a good choice for a elderly person, with next to no recoil and plenty of fire power and easy to aim and control.

    Wasp strap is effective shot in the face of attacker and most elderly know how to use it already.

    As to rather wasp spray may be lethal to BG, if BG is attacking elderly person he needs a good shot of eye blinding chocking bad bug killer in the face from up to 20ft away.

    BTW a 10/22 can handle more than 1 BG with ease.
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