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    I can't believe a Montana girl saying that, but keep in mind that light guns kick harder; larger calibers kick harder; +P ammo kicks harder. Work around it. Is this firearm for home duty or carry duty?

    While I don't consider a .380 a great caliber, I'm not going to argue with someone pointing one at me. Nor am I going to argue with a .38 special-armed individual. Both od these are suitaable for self defense and more on the milder side of recoil in comparison. It's tough to beat a .38 snubbie.
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    You're not going to find a softer shooting center fire handgun than the S&W M&P.
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    I'm not sure you will find a 9mm that is easier to control than your M&P and won't be a boat anchor. My recommendation would also be to get some training. A proper grip and stance can do wonders for you. My wife is tiny, 5'3" and 98 lbs soaking wet. She has small hands that aren't very strong, yet she can easily handle any of my handguns including a friends S&W 340sc airlight 357 (12oz unloaded). Her main carry gun is an LC9 (small light 9mm with thin hard plastic grip).

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    Before you go out and blow a ton of money looking for that perfect gun, try using a pair of cycling gloves while you get use to your M&P
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    Wifey got this for v-day...


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    Have you looked at different grip panels for your M&P? It could help, or weighting the grips may also help. You may look for a harder recoil spring, if it hits the rear stop and jolts. I am not sure if they make downloaded ammo for you to use at the range until you build up strength and resistance in your hands against the standard ammunition. Our range does not have any rental guns, but anyone out there will usually let you shot theirs if you are shopping, and occasionally people will end up selling theirs or trading for yours. See what fits, and then feel how different guns shoot, if you are just trying others, try as many as you can before just steeling again.

    You may look at a CZ-85, they are in 9mm PB(Luger), but they are a full framed steel pistol, and the 85 is ambidextrous, the 75 is pretty much the same thing, just not ambidextrous.

    Look between a .22 to a 9mm Luger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    I can't believe a Montana girl saying that, but keep in mind that light guns kick harder; larger calibers kick harder; +P ammo kicks harder. Work around it. Is this firearm for home duty or carry duty?

    While I don't consider a .380 a great caliber, I'm not going to argue with someone pointing one at me. Nor am I going to argue with a .38 special-armed individual. Both od these are suitaable for self defense and more on the milder side of recoil in comparison. It's tough to beat a .38 snubbie.
    I'm not actually from Montana; just moved here over a year ago. And the gun is for home. Basically, just looking for something to start out with that I can practice with. I think the more time I practice, the better I'll be with handling the guns.

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    Thanks everyone! I wish I would've done my research before going out to by a gun. And we do have a range here, but we live so far out from everything that no one is ever actually at the range. Most of the people here find other areas to go shooting. I did shoot a friends .22 revolver and I handled it great. But like everyone is saying, it's not
    the best for self defense. I'll be spending the week researching the guns everyone listed. Thanks!

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    The Chiappa Rhino has the least recoil of any .357 I have seen or used, but it is pricey--- $700 +. You should try one, but I doubt if any ranges have them except to sell.Look at the videos people have listed and you will be amazed. And good luck: you're bound to find a gun that is right for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ldell23 View Post
    We've been using a Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm but it kinda jolts me back. I went shopping today, not really
    understanding that much on guns, and I bought a P-64. I took this out today and it basically just killed my hands. It didn't jolt my body, but it kicked my hands pretty hard- to the point I couldn't shoot anymore.
    I'd suggest getting some professional training before you invest in any more guns. My guess is that you're feeling more recoil than you should because of an improper grip - something a good instructor could figure out and fix in minutes. Seriously - ask about instructors at a local range, gun shop or even police department. With a hundred bucks spent on instruction, you might find you can better handle the guns your already have.
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    Welcome to the forum.

    Gratuitous safety reminder:
    Protect the trigger guard with a straight trigger finger aligned with the bore and keep said finger and bore always pointed in a safe direction.

    Your M&P 9mm will be ideal for your stated purpose. I suggest you spend some time just holding it to make your hand bond with it. Practice locking your wrist, so the gun doesn't flip up. Practice tension in your shoulder, so the gun doesn't come back. Decide to dominate it, and a sweeter shooter will be hard to find.
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    Actually, my fiance is supposed to go pick up her M&P 9c this afternoon. Unfortunately, none of the local stores had one we could test fire before buying, but it fits her hand perfectly with the small backstrap, and she loves the fact that she can carry with 12+1 and also have 17+1 ready to go when she gets home by putting a full size magazine in it.

    Really, any high quality firearm will do, so long as you can hold it correctly, handle the recoil, are accurate with it, and have time to train with it. I'm also not a fan of most calibers under 9mm in semi-auto or .38 special in a revolver, but you to have to work with what you're capable of shooting.

    Good luck in your search!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    The Sig 238 is a Semi Auto 380 and has a 7 round mag IIRC + 1 in the chamber,I shot a buddys gun and could literally fire it rapid fire with minimal muzzle flip and recoil.I would highly recommend it,or find one to shoot first,if you ask around at a gun range I guarantee you that somebody will let you shoot theirs
    What he said. Perfect ladies gun, picking one up for my wife very soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pogo2 View Post
    The Polish P64 pistol that you were firing is a 22 ounce, all steel pistol with hard plastic grips firing the energetic 9mm Makarov cartridge. It uses the "blowback" design in which the barrel is fastened firmly to the frame of the gun, transmitting recoil directly to your hand as the gun fires. The Wikipedia entry on this gun describes it as having "harsh" recoil. So I am not surprised that it hurt your hand.

    I believe the way to reduce felt recoil in a pistol is to select a heavier gun firing less energetic ammunition with soft rubber grips. And in semiauto pistols I would favor a barrel link or locking barrel design over a blowback design, as this spreads the recoil over a longer period of time and makes it feel softer. The lightest recoil will probably be from a .22 caliber all steel gun, but this caliber has poor stopping power for defensive use.

    You might take a look at the Kahr K9 pistol, which is an all steel 9mm with soft rubber grips that weighs 25 ounces and has a locking barrel design. If you fire standard velocity 9mm ammo, the gun's recoil seems moderate to me, and the gun is small enough for easy concealment.

    Excellent, well thought out, informative, and accurate response. I agree with this. Plus, it is highly concealable.
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    Someone mentioned a heavier 9mm above, and that is good advice, a heavier gun won't buck around quite as much. But recoil is what it is.

    Believe it or not, one of the softest shooting guns I have is my H&K USP Compact .45. It'll keep you spot on with 230gr, and 185gr hollow points -- i've never shot +p or anything hotter than a standard load -- shoot with hardly a kick at all. Very easy gun to shoot.
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