40's or 9's ?

40's or 9's ?

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    40's or 9's ?

    Ok I have been around guns enough and really into the compound archery (Mathews Z7 Mag) and Im looking into the handgun thing. Im leaning towards the S&W Sigma 40 but the 9mm is out there as well. Any input is much appreciated. Thanks in advanced. By the way Im in Up-State NY if that matters and would be using for home defense and the occasional "back -up " in bear country. Yes I know about that "law".

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    If you know anybody that owns one or both, if not try a range that rents guns. Shoot both...see which you like and/or can control the best.
    It all boils down to personal preference.
    I carry/shoot a 9 and my best friend carries/shoots a .40... mine is an M&P, and his is a Sigma.
    Really not all that much difference.
    Just my 2 cent opinion.

    Personally I don't think either is potent enough for bear country, I would consider .357 Mag a minimum for bears and a .41 or .44 mag all the better
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    There are probably like 10-15 recent threads on this very subject. They will have a lot of good opinions, so check them out. Either is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stubborn View Post
    If you know anybody that owns one or both, if not try a range that rents guns. Shoot both...see which you like and/or can control the best.
    It all boils down to personal preference.
    I carry/shoot a 9 and my best friend carries/shoots a .40... mine is an M&P, and his is a Sigma.
    Really not all that much difference.
    Just my 2 cent opinion.
    My impression is that the Sigma is not in the same league as the M&P. As I recall, the Sigma is a blatant copy of the Glock (for which S&W was sued and lost) and features a heavy, crunchy trigger whereas the M&P is a new, thoroughly modern design.
    Budget notwithstanding, I'd aim for either caliber in a slightly better model, for what it's worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilt View Post
    Ok I have been around guns enough and really into the compound archery (Mathews Z7 Mag) and Im looking into the handgun thing. Im leaning towards the S&W Sigma 40 but the 9mm is out there as well. Any input is much appreciated. Thanks in advanced. By the way Im in Up-State NY if that matters and would be using for home defense and the occasional "back -up " in bear country. Yes I know about that "law".
    I personally prefer the .40; it packs more punch.

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    I just did a search and seen the ******* matches (LOL). WOW! I think Ill go shoot it for what it worth Thanks Again!

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    I was a 9mm guy all the way. I started looking in to the 40 and found that I felt it did deserve a place in the line-up, so I added one. I really like how the G23 shoots. I was able to drive nails with it, and like having just a bit more punch than the 9mm. Either is more than adequate given the right shot placement.

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    Hi Hilt, and welcome to the Forum. I have three 9mms and no .40 S&Ws but like the notion of the .40 better than I do the 9mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lockback View Post
    My impression is that the Sigma is not in the same league as the M&P. As I recall, the Sigma is a blatant copy of the Glock (for which S&W was sued and lost) and features a heavy, crunchy trigger whereas the M&P is a new, thoroughly modern design.
    Budget notwithstanding, I'd aim for either caliber in a slightly better model, for what it's worth.
    Sorry, I guess the way I said that didn't make it clear. I didn't mean there wasn't much difference between the Sigma and M&P. I meant there wasn't that much difference between the calibers. Personally I think there is a huge difference between the two weapons, especially the triggers. Granted I had a trigger job done on my M&P but the Sigma I shot had a horrible trigger. A ton of pre-travel and was honestly @ 14-16 lbs.
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    I have a S&W sigma 40....I looked at the M&P but didn't see $200 difference...the sigma trigger is stiff but I have modified it by removing three spring and replacing two of them...now it has the same pull as the M&P....I have shot over 500 rounds through it without any FTE's or FTF,s....The 9mm Luger is a good gun as is the 40 S&W...shot placement is the deciding factor, not necessary the caliber....

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    he trigger pull on a new sigma averages in at 11-5 lb. no where near the 14-16 lb...mine is 6 lb after the mods to the trigger and striker. The mods cost me a total of $15.00....the advantage of buying a glock or m&P is that you get to spend a lot more money for a little bit of improvement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stubborn View Post
    Sorry, I guess the way I said that didn't make it clear. I didn't mean there wasn't much difference between the Sigma and M&P. I meant there wasn't much difference between the calibers. Personally I think there is a huge difference between the two weapons, especially the triggers. Granted I had a trigger job done on my M&P but the Sigma I shot had a horrible trigger. A ton of pre-travel and was honestly @ 14-16 lbs.

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    9MM, or go to the 45

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    Ask yourself two questions;:

    1. What do I shoot most accurately

    2. What can I afford to shoot

    Then you will have your answer.
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    Any of the current defense calibers - 9mm, 40S&W, .357 SIG or .45ACP - will serve you well.
    While I carry a .45 most of the time, the 9mm works just fine with modern hollowpoint ammo. Any of them are good, provided you hit what you aim at. One reason I do like the 9mm is the relative cheapness of practice ammo and light recoil, which allows you quick followup shots. I reload, so shooting the .45 doesn't drain my meager bank account terribly. But if you don't handload, I'd highly recommend the 9mm and a quality firearm. And then practice, practice, practice!

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    Not all but most people can shoot the 9mm caliber slightly more accurately than the 40s&w caliber. Also the 9mm is two to four dollars cheaper in target ammo.
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