This is a discussion on 3" 1911 within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I want to preface this by saying I'm not a competitive shooter, armorer, instructor or technical "expert" about guns. I have read the comments about ...
Post By claude clay
February 25th, 2012 12:32 PM
I want to preface this by saying I'm not a competitive shooter, armorer, instructor or technical "expert" about guns. I have read the comments about some 3" 1911s and I wanted to share my experience. I've been carrying and shooting the Colt New Agent for several months. (The one in my avatar as a matter of fact.)
This Colt is stock, no after market tweaks, parts, etc. (Except the grips.) I've been practicing weekly shooting an average of 100 rds of 230 gr FMJ and 25-50 rds of 230 gr JHP. No reloads. I only mentioned this so that you know what I'm basing my experience on. So my experience is based upon approx 2k plus rds. Not much at all.
Only shooting will provide me with the psychological belief that it will go bang and yes I understand that no weapon will be 100%. Thats why we should practice with snap caps to mimic FTF, etc.
As you know it has a trench style sight and is truly a point and shoot pistol. My groups have tightened as I learned how to use the trench sights. Use is sort of misleading. I don't aim with it, I use it to point with.
I'm now quite confident that it will go bang when I want it to. All of this to say that IMHO this is a reliable pistol. Not much of an endorsement coming from an old guy who only shot a few rds, but I wanted to share my experience. As always YMMV.
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February 25th, 2012 12:41 PM
and the trench works --understand that you present the gun in your eyesight every time you shoot it.
so your 'brain' knows what it looks like--its profile, the way your hand is positioned--each time you pull the trigger.
cojoin that with where the bullet goes and you are.....point shooting.
next time at the range with a IDPA cardboard size target look where you want the bullet to go and than 'let it happen'
--draw and aim with your eyes, fire with your finger.
off by a little.....walk the rounds to where they need to be and fire the rest of the mag slowly.
imprinting. reload and do some more. slowly. speed will come later
make your movements from the draw to fire deliberate. trust yourself.
let us know.
good gun. i carried a defender for 10 years. rather miss it but i became arthritic.
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February 25th, 2012 01:02 PM
February 25th, 2012 01:13 PM
Nice gun, nice grips also.
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February 25th, 2012 01:14 PM
Nice post. What can you say; it's a Colt.
I EDC a 3" 1911. It's great with the sights, but it points like a dream. It's a confidence game.
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February 25th, 2012 01:51 PM
My edc is.my 3" Kimber 1911. My bud has the 3" Springfield 1911. Lots rds down range with no issues either. The 3" 1911 is a great weapon.
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February 25th, 2012 02:00 PM
Thanks for the insight, and perspective.
Its good that you have "proofed" the pistol, and know, at least by the sounds of it, that you are reasonably proficient with it, have confidence in it and are happy with it.
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February 25th, 2012 02:23 PM
I like your 3" choice, nice conceal and they shoot well.
February 25th, 2012 02:54 PM
I have also had a good experience with a 3 inch Colt 1911 - the Defender model. I've never had a failure to fire or eject through 1000 rounds. I think Colt knows how to make a 1911 in this barrel length. These guns are only 0.90 inches wide through the slide, and conceal very well. I'd like to try the New Agent model also.
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February 25th, 2012 02:56 PM
Sometimes "Less is More" when come to sights...
Glad it's working well for you.
Thanks for the report.
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February 25th, 2012 03:21 PM
Your input is greatly appreciated.
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February 25th, 2012 04:25 PM
I have the Talo New Agent in 9mm and have never had a failure of any kind. I agree, Colt makes a great 3 inch 1911.
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