SIG is a superior product IMO
This is a discussion on Sig 239 or M&P 9 compact within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; FWIW the Sig 239 can be bought with the DAK trigger that is not a DA/SA. I have both triggers in 239. I don't have ...
FWIW the Sig 239 can be bought with the DAK trigger that is not a DA/SA. I have both triggers in 239. I don't have a M&P, I do read a lot of good comments about them and the 239 as well.
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SIG is a superior product IMO
My wife and I both have Sig P239 SAS Gen 2 pistols and several M&P's in differnt flavors. For carry, between those two, for ME the M&P would be a no-brainer! The two primary reasons would be weight and trigger system with capacity being another factor but of less importance.
To ME the two most significant criteria in "carryability" are weight and thickness. Just eyeballing them, the Sig is a bit slimmer than the M&P but it is much heavier.
About the trigger system. My first semi-auto pistols were S&W DA/SA's and then I fell in love with DA/SA Sigs. I always considered the DA/SA system pretty much ideal, a double action pull to prevent a premature first shot and a light single action pull for subsequent shots. After several high round count defensive pistols classes, in which both accuracy and speed were emphasized and scored, I have done a one-eighty. I think DA/SA introduces an unnecessary variable and am now a firm believer in picking SA or DA and then training with it until its operation is ingrained into muscle memory. Others who are emotionally and financially invested in the SA/DA-thing will, of course, disagree. As another has pointed out, the DAK trigger is available on the P239 if you lean that way.
Which ever you choose, what is important is having it when you need it and being competent in its use.
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I've never shot a 239 and I understand the initial assumption that a metal gun will usually have less recoil than a polymer gun, but the M&P9 - both full size and compact - are about the lightest recoiling 9mm's I have ever shot. Also with it's very low bore axis, they have less muzzle flip than my HK USP 9fs,
I've been looking at these two guns myself.. I currently have a M&P full size, and have never owned a Sig.
Personally I don't see capacity as much of a issue, for me at least. And if you're in MA then it won't be for you either.
The M&P is a smidge longer than the Sig. It's also got a shorter grip than the Sig. 4.3 vs 5.1. Personally.. I think 5" is the perfect length for a concealed weapon.
Both pistols are equal in width
The Sig is significantly heavier than the M&P 21.3 oz vs 29.5.
The M&P is cheaper than the Sig by about $200.
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Things to consider:
Trigger type/striker fire double action etc etc..
Frame size and shape.
Company service reputation
Ease of break down for cleaning.
Holster availbility and choice
Buying preference USA or not?
I own an M&P 9 MM and love it. I have a decent holster for it and it is very conceable. As far as Sig I own two a P238, and a
P232 both are 380's. I have a full size Sig STX on order but I have been waiting a long time for it to come. Sig Sauer is one of the finest handgun manufacturers out there and I am a big Sig fan. They are extremely accurate also. I would say find one of each and try them out. See what you like.
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Thanks all. Picked up a sig p229r. Wanted the added capacity over the 239 and while heavier love the control. Have when shooting.
Two fine guns for sure. I just love the build of a SIG. I have 2, a 239 and a Scorpion 45 and one on the short list, a 229 Dark Elite. They really are reliable and solid. As with most things it will become personal preference. Hold them both, shoot them both. You will know. If not buy them both!!
It's not a problem til they make it one!
also dont forget resale value....SIG will have it,M&P wont
Sigs are very expensive new, but sell for a lot less new.
I can easily sell a used glock or M&P for only 50 dollars less than new. No way could I sell a sig for only 50 less than new price.