Originally Posted by NMB
Originally Posted by gasmitty
I could pipe up right now, but I'd sound like these two!!
BTW,, I own a S&W M&P9c, 9 others(friends & family) have them(M&P) as well in some variant/cal.
You could get a .40 compact, get a .357Sig barrel, and some FS mags for HD.
AND you can get a 9mm barrel, and some 9mm mags and run the same gun.
Go to the range that rents , and shoot what your friends and family do not have, then buy.
Just throwing my 2¢ worth. I just bought (last Saturday) a Smith & Wesson M & P .45 and I just got to shoot it today. Oh, it is sweet and accurate as can be. I love it and even thought it is a fairly large gun, it is going to replace my Kel-Tec PF9 as my EDC when I get my permit. Just need to get my Remora holster for it now so I have it when the permit shows up (should be soon).
Also consider the Walther PPS. It's flatter than Glocks and has the same basic safety. Very accurate and reliable. I have two and had one of them for years shooting quite often.
IMO... Get a Glock. *As long as you are already very proficient with handguns*... Maybe it's just me but "safe action" seems like a twisted joke ;) Be aware that most are double stack and the grip is like holding a rolling pin compared to some other handguns... heh.. I personally do not, and will not own a glock. I just don't like them. But they work great for a lot of shooters. Caliber- not a fan of 9mm... .357sig is awesome but you'll regret it. 40 Short and Weak is the way to go. I'm just obligated to hate. 45GAP over engineered, 45ACP get a 1911!! :D
Well, except for one passing mention of a .38 snub, it seems no one has offered the suggestion of a revolver.
Opinions are worth, well, what they're worth, but I STRONGLY believe a first handgun should be a revolver. Learn basic handgun skills and good habits, before you take on the added complexity of SA/DA, striker vs. hammer, manual/grip/trigger safeties, etc. Not too many on the forum seem to agree with me, but my first handgun (37 years ago) was a semi-auto, and that was a mistake. Fortunately, it was a crappy little gun, and I traded it in for a Security Six after only a few months. I'm a pretty hard-core semi-auto guy NOW, but the revolver was the way to go at the start.
I would suggest a 3" SP-101. Concealable, reliable, manageable, powerful, simple. It's also built like a tank, and will outlive your grandchildren. Get proficient and comfortable with a good wheelgun, then see which semi-auto turns you on.
Another option is to take a class with an instructor at a range with a rental counter. This not only builds basic safety and gun handling skills, but also gives you hands on experience with different firearms. The instructor can show you advantages and disadvantages of various platforms and incorporate concealed carry into the lesson.
I would also suggest for a first and possibly only handgun, one that allows for a full combat grip. You will be training/practicing with this gun and it's easier to learn fundamentals on a full sized or compact gun than a sub-compact or micro.
Welcome to the forum and let us know what you decide, good luck.
Welcome to the forum! Might I suggest you look into the Beretta PX 4 Storm Sub-Compact 9mm. It has DA/SA action, is hammer-fired, is concealable, can be had for $479 =/-. The only negative for you would be the external safety.
Welcome to the forum. As for advice, I think gasmitty pretty much nailed it on that.
I have a walther p99c AS, one of the best guns I've ever shot, and most accurate
AS trigger is pretty nice, light, and has a .1 inch reset, also can be decocked and used as DA on the first shot
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Based on all input, and your expectations, the Glock-19 would appear to be your best bet.
You have to be the one to make that final decision...go handle a 'bunch a guns'...one will start calling out your name.:yup:
Best advice given here!!!
Originally Posted by matthew03
I also would recommend doing exactly that!
What he said!
Originally Posted by rambosky
The PPS has a nice trigger, with a short reset as well, and is quite slim for carry, while not being punishing for a few hundred rounds at the range...
How about saving some cash and grabbing a CZ-82? I wish I had gone this route for my first pistol, instead of getting a bunch of guns that didn't work out for CCW (reliability, too large, etc.)
Classic Arms http://www.classicarms.us has them with accessories for $219.
They fit all of your stated criteria easily, and have a great SA/DA trigger. Easy to shoot, VERY easy to field strip, chrome-lined barrel, good capacity.
*Just so you know that I practice what I preach, I will be ordering one tomorrow. Other than that, I recommend a Glock. I have, carry, and love a 3rd Generation G19.
My personal first choice based on your criteria would be the S&W9c or 40c (would get a 357 sig barrel as well if I got the 40).
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Well I went to the gun store today an checked out a few guns...XD9c, Glock 19 & 26, S&W9c...loved the Glock 19...I felt the 26 was much too short in the grip area.
Lubed it up and shot 100 rounds through it at the range I have at my house...flawless.
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From what I can tell, it's a Gen 3 which is fine by me since I have read about Gen 4s having problems.
One thing that sucks though is it came with 2 10 round mags...gonna have to buy some 15 round ones....any suggestions on a good online store to buy glock stuff?