Wow, thanks for all the great info and input! I really appreciate it.
Now I need to head for the LGS and check everything out!
Both make good pistols.
I don't have any personal experience w/ Bersa handguns, but I've read on the 'net of many folks who've had a good experience w/ them. I do have a Kahr CW45 and like it a great deal. The onlyl 9mm I cc is a Kel-Tec PF9. At the time I bought it, the CW9 was not out yet and the CM9 was hard to find. I like the CW45 enough that if I had it to do over, I MIGHT buy the CM9 or CW9 in place of the PF9. Something I really like about the PF9 is the ability to pocket carry it, expecially during the summer. I think one would have a harder time doing that w/ the Bersa BP9 CC and the Kahr CW9. On the other hand, the PM9 should pocket carry as well as the PF9. I think you'd be happy w/ the right Kahr, and possibly the right Bersa, as well.
any of the three are very good guns....Thunder 9 Ultracompact is a double stack 13+1 and the other two are both single stack 7+1 9mm's.
Bersa BP 9cc vs Bersa Thunder 9 Ultracompact.
Bersa BP 9cc vs Kahr CW9
I carry a Kahr pM9 in a pocket holster and really like it. Traded a Walther ppks 380 for the Kahr because had trouble taking it apart to clean. Just read the first reviews on the new Springfield XSD carry 45 and look forward to trying it.
Also, can't go wrong with a Glock as I comprtrd with a 17 for many years
I've had four Bersa's and a few more Kahrs. There are some major differences. The Bersas will be heavier and larger, but for the money they are very good. For a number of years they had quite a few problems with their finish, but it appears they have that under contol now. Personally, I would not choose one for conceald carry; a great range pistol, however.
I did carry a Kahr CW9, and I do carry the newer CM9. And I consider the CM9 one of the best I've ever had in over 40 years. Light, small and accurate, and no appreciable recoil. It does have a bit of a long trigger pull, but now that I'm used to it, I don't notice it. I got mine, with two magazines, out the door for $390. You can certainly pay more for a lot of different pistols, but I'm not sure you will get a better one for the price. One brief caution, I have a friend who has very big hands and he simply did not feel as though he had enough control with the CM9 to feel comfortable and in control; so he went with the CW9.
The Thunder 9UC is the same size as a Glock 26 and just a few ounces heavier. I carry the one in the pic a lot.....incredibly accurate....I mean dead nuts on accurate.
Thanks for the input. I appreciate it!
My friends and I recently gathered up the Kahr CW9, CM9, Bersa BP9, S&W M&P Shield and Sig P290RS and went to te range to see what everyone thought of the pistols. We had five shooters and we each had ample opportunity to run each gun through its paces. After every shooter had his fill, the consensus was that the BP9 was the favorite. It had a nice trigger with a quick reset although there was some concern that it did not have enough resistance. It also had a larger dot on the front sight which made it easier to see. The recoil was mild and straight up so follow-up shots were quick and easy. After this range session, two people from the group ordered a BP9.
The Kahr Cw9 was a solid second and functioned flawlessly but it just did not feel as good as the Bersa. The trigger felt too long and the sights were not as easy to use as the Bersa. It is a little lighter than the Bersa and slightly smaller but the Bersa adds an extra round.
The CM9 also functioned flawlessly and is a great choice for a pocket pistol. Being a smaller gun, it left something to be desired as far as grip length and feel. However, it is the only one of the five that would fit in a pocket easily.
We expected the M&P Shield to be the favorite but every shooter came away disappointed. The recoil was up and to the right making follow-up shots more difficult. The grip was not as comfortable as the BP9 or CW9 and the sights on the BP9 are more visible. The trigger on the BP9 also had a better feel. Would we be happy with the Shield if the BP9 and CW9 were not available? Yes, but unfortunately for the Shield, the BP9 and CW9 showed up.
The P290RS had some soft-strike issues but would fire using the re-strike feature. It was accurate but the soft-strike issue killed the gun. We had about six soft-strikes over seven magazines of six shots each. Way too many for our tastes. This issue was supposed to have been remedied in the RS but it appaers to be an ongoing problem.
...but a nice writeup! I think I would have started a new thread, rather than piggybacking on this necro.
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