why won't Glock make a single stack sub-compact?

This is a discussion on why won't Glock make a single stack sub-compact? within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I've got a G36 and totally love it. I carry it all the time. I wish they would make a single stack 9mm. I tried ...

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    I've got a G36 and totally love it. I carry it all the time.
    I wish they would make a single stack 9mm. I tried the Kahr PM9 and traded it for my G36. The Kahr was not reliable with to many FTEs and FTFs. It was sent back to the factory twice and they cut a bit off the recoil spring. It was very hards to rack the slide, I preferred to sling shot the first round from a new magazine and they required that you load from slide lock release. It was a major PIA to stgrip and clean and to re-assemble. The G36 has none of those problems and the manual of arms is essentially the same as my G26 and G19.

    I'd like a single stack Glock for 9mm that was a bit easier to carry/conceal than the G26 but I'm quite happy with what I have...
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    You have to appreciate Glocks history to understand why there not selling a single stack 9 mm.

    The Glocks we know and love (G17) would have never been born if not for their high cap mags. Glock would have never gotten the contract to provide sidearms to the Austrian Army if not for the double stack mag and a few other things that made them so popular in the US.

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    I don't understand this line of thought.
    If you want to carry a firearm with only 5-6 rounds in it, get a revolver.
    Most sensible manufacturer's try to cover the professional, and civilian market with products which make sense, have value, are not to overtly priced when compared to competing products.
    Why would you want to carry a pistol with 6-8 rounds, when for a few tenths of an inch wider, you can have one that holds up to twice as many.
    Don't give me the line of malarkey that you can feel the difference.
    I just don't get it.
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    I totally agree that a Glock should do a single-stack 9mm, and I would be 1st in line to buy one. But I don't think they could bring one into the good ol' USA based on BATF's point system for imported weapons. I've heard, and maybe someone could back me up on this, that a handgun must score at least 75 BATF points to be imported into this country. The BATF score is based on dimensions, weight and caliber. I've read that the Glock 26 already scores a 75, so one would assume that a reduction in width would equate to a reduction in score, making import impossible. So maybe the problem isn't Glock, it's the damn BATF.

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    Because they've already perfected the sub-compact double-stack pistol.
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    Buy a Walther PPS in 9mm or .40. Not only are they single stack but a heck of a lot thinner. They also have no true safety but a "safe action" similar to the Glock.


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    You don't try and fix what ain't broke and Glocks are just fine as they are for what they are.

    They definately have their share of the semi-auto pistol market with a product that is reliable, accurate enough for most of us, easy to work on and resonably priced.

    There are numerous manufactures of quality small single stack compact semi-auto's in the market place. Glock has no real need to go there especially with ATF restrictions on imports.

    It's a shame Diamondback can't get Glock reliability from their entries into the marketplace because that would fill the notch the OP is looking for with the DB9.

    The vast majority of my SD carry involves a Glock. If I have to go smaller than my G-36 I have snub nose revolvers that will do the job just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agave View Post
    A single stack 9mm would likely be too light weight to import. G26 is the bare minimum already. Were it an ounce lighter, it would be illegal to import.
    I like my Glocks but a smaller single stack would make them more $$ in the market? But why would this make a difference if they are starting to assemble them in Georgia, Usa??

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    No reason for Glock to retool and come out with single stack anything since they sell every gun they manufacture.....so if you like Glocks, you just might like their little skinny clones from New York.

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    So your argument is that if you are going to carry a handgun with an inadequate capacity then you might as well carry a revolver with an inadequate capacity?

    Actually the G.36 has a magazine capacity of 6 rounds +1 in the chamber & 7 rounds of .45ACP is nothing to sneeze at in such a compact package. Also you could buy a SCHERER extended magazine pad for the G36 which will +1 for the G36 magazines for a 7 round magazine +1 in the chamber. That ain't bad.


    Quote Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
    I don't understand this line of thought.
    If you want to carry a firearm with only 5-6 rounds in it, get a revolver.
    Most sensible manufacturer's try to cover the professional, and civilian market with products which make sense, have value, are not to overtly priced when compared to competing products.
    Why would you want to carry a pistol with 6-8 rounds, when for a few tenths of an inch wider, you can have one that holds up to twice as many.
    Don't give me the line of malarkey that you can feel the difference.
    I just don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
    Why would you want to carry a pistol with 6-8 rounds, when for a few tenths of an inch wider, you can have one that holds up to twice as many.
    Don't give me the line of malarkey that you can feel the difference.
    I just don't get it.
    A few tenths is a lot. the difference between my PF9 and my G26 is significant and definitely noticeable to me when worn IWB. I'd love the reliability and trigger of my G26 in a single stack.

    just an opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    Because everything that it's famous for is based on it's current design. Why weaken it?
    I hope they never change.

    For a company labeled as not innovative, there sure as hell are a lot of copies on dealer shelves right now.
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    Here's my two cents: It's the MAGAZINE design of the Glock Platform that keeps them from tooling one out at an inch or so in width. The MAGAZINE; the heart of the semi-auto.

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    When I went to see the Beretta Nano I placed it side by side with a Glock 26, and the Nano look large in comparison. I carry my Glock 26 with even fitted T Shirts with no issues. I am not going smaller than the G26, I am going bigger. I am carrying my full size M&P 9 more and more. Smaller than the G26 will have to be a J frame revolver. So far I have not been impressed with smaller semi-autos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yz9890 View Post
    A few tenths is a lot. the difference between my PF9 and my G26 is significant and definitely noticeable to me when worn IWB. I'd love the reliability and trigger of my G26 in a single stack.

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