FNH Five-Seven

This is a discussion on FNH Five-Seven within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Just wondering if anybody owns an FNH Five-Seven. If so - what do you think about it. Any flaws/jams that you've encountered? What's your likes ...

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    FNH Five-Seven

    Just wondering if anybody owns an FNH Five-Seven.

    If so - what do you think about it.

    Any flaws/jams that you've encountered?

    What's your likes and dis-likes?

    Appreciate any input.
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    I have one and I like it. high capacity, light recoil, shoots flat, quick follow-ups, and with the right ammo the same wounding potential as the .45 acp. It is large, expensive, and ammo isn't available at Walmart.

    With all that being said, I trust mine as my home defense handgun.

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    the only flaws I've noted are the high cost of both acquisition and ammo, the gun is very well made and it is a great shooter, a bit large for EDC here in FLA but in cooler places it covers fine with a jacket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    the only flaws I've noted are the high cost of both acquisition and ammo, the gun is very well made and it is a great shooter, a bit large for EDC here in FLA but in cooler places it covers fine with a jacket.
    Really a Sweet gun, but as every apvbguy says is preventing a purchase.

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    I hesitate to mention it since last time everyone got testy, but I think we would be remiss in not mentioning not everyone is convinced about the effectivness of the round:

    http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=228024

    Dr. Roberts is considered an expert on balistics.

    I suggest you read through his posts on the balistics subforum on m4carbine.net, esp. the stickies, and decide for yourself the credibility of his posts.

    -john

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    I have one and think it's a very well made pistol. Never had a jam, can't think of any flaws... the gun works every time, is easy to use, easy to shoot well, and stays really clean. I like the mags a lot, they're easier to load than the average pistol mag. I dislike the constant balistic debate. Can't talk about this gun without a debate. A shame. I own one beacuse it is a great gun, not because I hunt elephant with it.

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    My $.02, worth exactly as much as you pay for it: I've come close, several times, to buying one, when I've seen a good deal. From a carbine, with "military" ammo, there is no doubt that the round has good wounding potential, and maybe even good "stopping power," whatever that means. After much research, I've determined that, from a pistol, the terminal ballistic effectiveness is roughly equivalent to the .22 WMR from a rifle. Now, I'd be the first to admit that such ballistics are not ones in front of which I'd stand. However, since one must go to "gray market" sources to get military-grade ammo, and pay big money to get it, I've been able to forego an actual purchase. I may buy one, yet. However, I feel MUCH more comfortable with 9x23, .357 Sig, 10mm, .45 ACP, .357 mag., .40 S&W and even 9x19 for self-defense than I would with this caliber.

    Concealability is a matter of good holster choice and "dressing to the gun," so that would not be one of my concerns. I've handled the FN pistols, and it would not be at all difficult to carry and conceal.

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    Here is a link to an independent study that finds "Conversely, the FN SS-195 and the Elite Ammunition S4M offer performance quite similar to the tested .45ACP, with considerably lower recoil and ammunition weight, coupled with a significantly higher weapon magazine capacity. We feel that the Elite Ammunition S4M can be seen as a “+P” version of the very effective 27gr 5.7mm FMJ and we have no qualms about recommending this cartridge as a feasible replacement to the more conventional .45ACP handgun, for use against human attackers."

    http://www.brassfetcher.com/Elite%20...%2016APR11.pdf

    YouTube link to penetration tests -- greater than 12" in bare gel and denim, as well as 11" through a level IIIa vest.
    Elite Ammunition S4M Ballistic test w/Level IIIa Body Armor, Five-Seven & PS90 - YouTube

    I'm not interested in a caliber war either, just offering the other side of the coin to Dr Roberts. (who made that post in 2011 with no research data newer that 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzdog View Post
    I hesitate to mention it since last time everyone got testy, but I think we would be remiss in not mentioning not everyone is convinced about the effectivness of the round:

    Small Caliber PDW's: FN 5.7 mm/HK 4.6 mm - M4Carbine.net Forums

    Dr. Roberts is considered an expert on balistics.

    I suggest you read through his posts on the balistics subforum on m4carbine.net, esp. the stickies, and decide for yourself the credibility of his posts.

    -john
    you post this nonsense every time this gun comes up on the forum and every time you post this I will post the fact that his conclusions are severely flawed
    there's this big organisation known as NATO that doesn't agree with him

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    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    you post this nonsense every time this gun comes up on the forum and every time you post this I will post the fact that his conclusions are severely flawed
    there's this big organisation known as NATO that doesn't agree with him
    If by "every time" you mean all twice, then so be it. You are certainly welcome to disagree with his findings, but I don't understand why the strong reaction.

    If you look at Dr. Roberts discussion it seems to boil down to wounding potential in handgun calibres comes down to projectile size after the min 12" penatration has been met. His point is (in the ammunition he has tested) the bullets aren't going fast enough to act like rifle ammunition, so basically the round is simply a small handgun round with wounding potential to match.

    Are there good things to offset this? Sure. Capacity, flat shooting, etc.

    My main point is there is some doubt and I suggest people look into it for themselves.

    -john

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    Alrighty then.

    Thanks for the input guys. I've got my eye on an FNH 5.7 in OD green.

    I like the velocity, accuracy at 75 yards, and of course the cool factor.

    I've got a Browning Cynergy 12 gauge that I've been trying to sell. I'm thinking about a trade and on my want list is the FNH 5-7 plus a bunch of 5.7x28 ammo.

    I'll try to find some other reviews before I take the plunge.

    Thanks again.

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    I have an FNP-9 most accuate gun I shoot...
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    And die to find out there isn't, than live my life
    As if there isn't, and die to find out there is.
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    here is the way I look at the experts ... hey mr./mrs. expert .. if you think this is such a horrible round ... lets do a test ..
    you release me of all liability .. then you let me shoot you 3 times with the round ...
    if you survive then I guess maybe I will reconsider the round ...

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    I've always had an interest in getting one of them, but I know it'd cost me too way too much. See, I couldn't buy just the pistol, I'd have to a have a PS90 or an AR-57 to go with it.
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    I got one in black the newer style with adjustable sights. It came with 3 mags. I can reload the ammo ( not very easy to reload and only 2-3 times per case ), plus there are indications that others will make some ammo for it. it is on the large size for conceal. But I got a Cleveland Holster right from Bobby and it works well. It shoots very accurate. Fun to shoot. I can use it for longer distance than most other pistols. Can't argue with 1800 FPS or better. I would look for a deal on one. Don't pay retail. Maybe you may find a clean used one.

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