M&P Shield safety removal?

M&P Shield safety removal?

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    M&P Shield safety removal?

    I have heard that the safety was easy to remove on the original M&P series. Have any of you new Shield owners tried it yet?
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    What advantage would be gained by removing it? Why not not just leave the safety in the off position?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedomofchoice View Post
    What advantage would be gained by removing it? Why not not just leave the safety in the off position?
    Because with the safety removed there's no chance of it accidentally being turned on.
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    Don't think it would easily go from " safe" to "fire" mode. I have it in my hand and have to push it down with a fair amount of pressure to take it off "safe." That would not be a real concern for me, JMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philly Boy View Post
    Don't think it would easily go from " safe" to "fire" mode. I have it in my hand and have to push it down with a fair amount of pressure to take it off "safe." That would not be a real concern for me, JMO.
    I handled one at the LGS and admit, it would be tough accidentally actuate the safety on. That being said, when It comes to a defensive firearm I want as few points of failure as possible to minimize the chance that Mr. Murphy will make an appearance.
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    that's generally my opinion as well. although I usually address by not buying guns with features I don't like. that's becoming harder to do recently though. the shield looks pretty nice.

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    I wonder if there is a way to lock the safety in the "fire" position? Locktite maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thmtn View Post
    I wonder if there is a way to lock the safety in the "fire" position? Locktite maybe?
    JB Weld <------ (Just kidding, don't put JB Weld on your pistol).

    I shot 1911's for years, and still have a couple I shoot at the range. Since owning the Shield, I've started getting into the habit of sweeping it off when I draw even though I don't use it. It hasn't been hard bringing it back to my muscle memory.

    As I clear leather and bring it on target, my thumb sweeps the safety. If that's your habit, it certainly doesn't hurt anything if the safety is already off, or if the gun doesn't even have a safety.

    I'm now doing the same thing when drawing my full size M&P and XD9sc even though they don't have the manual safety. I lose no time whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thmtn View Post
    I wonder if there is a way to lock the safety in the "fire" position? Locktite maybe?
    Dremel the thumb thingy off
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    Spot weld it....lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thmtn View Post
    I wonder if there is a way to lock the safety in the "fire" position? Loctite maybe?
    if you put a dab of "red" loctite on that safety,i can reassure it will never move..that safety will be in that position for the life of the gun..

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    When I was a kid, I would sometimes heat a piece of steel (usually a piece of a wire hanger) over the kitchen stovetop (using pliers, of course) until it glowed red hot, and then push it into a broken plastic toy, in order to fix it. The hot steel would melt into the plastic. Once cooled, it was often stronger than new. Stunk like heck, though - had to keep a window open. Toxic fumes, I'm sure...

    Since the Shield has a plastic frame, I'm sure the same could be done. A small straight piece of steel could be inserted horizontally over the safety, locking it into the down (fire) position. Might not look great, but it would work.

    Count me as one of those who is sad to see all these new pistols coming out with thumb safeties. Would be nice if the makers would at least offer the option of getting the pistol without it.
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    Looks like plugging the open square notch in the frame would be a challenge... keeping dirt and debris out of the sear mechanism IMO

    A guy over at AR installed the APEX full size 9mm sear in the Shield. His post states "Bad news is that the safety bar looks impossible to remove without bending it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    Dremel the thumb thingy off
    I think its un-necessary - but this is probably the easiest solution

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    I detail stripped my Shield today. It comes apart like any other M&P.

    You don't have to bend the safety itself to get it off the sear block. It will slide off if you rotate it the proper way.

    The pin that holds the sear in has a shoulder on it so that it will only go into the sear block one way. The safety itself is what is holding that sear pin in. If you remove the safety the pin will slide out to the left until it hits the frame. Completely removing the safety is a no go.

    The safety blocks the rear of the trigger bar preventing the trigger bar moving to the rear. You could modify the safety on that end so no matter if it is engaged or not there will be no interference with the trigger bar rendering the safety inoperable.

    Other news.....

    I polished up the trigger system (sear, trigger bar, firing pin lug etc....) and it smoothed out the trigger pull and lightened it a little bit. To be honest, I don't think modifying the trigger with an Apex sear/springs is going to be needed on this pistol unless you really want a lightened trigger or shorter reset with less overtravel. The break is clean, the take up is pretty smooth and the trigger pull weight is probably about a half a pound less now.

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