I was considering buying a PT 92 or a Beretta 92A1 M9. I currently own a Sig Sauer P226 and highly recommend it as it is very accurate, has a great feel, and is really fun to shoot. I understand that the PT 92 is made at the old Beretta factory in Brazil so I thought it was just like the Beretta. I would still like to own the Beretta but now am worried that the
quality might be below the standard of the Sig Sauer and I might be disappointed with it's shooting accuracy. What do you folks think.
Armorer: Here's a Sig Sauer P226 for $900.
Customer: Uh ... got anything cheaper?
Armorer: Well, here's a nice Glock G21 for $600.
Customer: Ooh, gosh, that's still a lot.
Armorer: OK, how about a pre-owned Taurus PT92 ... only took one trip to the range, never dropped. $300.
With apologies to the OP. :embarassed:
guess it serves you right for buying a taurus...
I can understand that there are bad apples in every bunch and I know that normal Manufacturer Quality Control checks generally only test about 13 in every thousand made, there is always a chance of defectives making it out the door.
If you happened to get one, I feel for you.. but it is no reason to bad mouth the whole line. That would be like saying that because Toyota had an accelerator problem with a couple models of its cars. That no one should ever consider buying anything made by Toyota.
If you want to see what actual owners of the current PT92 have to say about theirs, go here:
Taurus PT92 9mm 5" Stainless FS, 17 round $468.00 SHIPS FREE
34 of 39 give it 5 out of 5 Stars.....the other five are ridiculous complaints about shipping time, plastic grips instead of rubber grips....non issues. Bottom line, the gun works even in the current configuration....so all the nay sayers can go pound sand.
BTW, I have a 12 year old Toyota that my daughter took to college. 180,000 miles with only routine maintenance. My Corolla has 80,000 miles and only routine maintenance. Wouldn't drive anything else.
I think the accelerator problem was a hoax :blink:
Just a thought. Why not decide to buy a domestic fire arm first and see if there's anything that fits the bill. If not, then buy foreign. I'm not getting on a high horse, I've got some made "over there". But it might be an interesting exercise. It won't need Customs if it does go back to the factory. There's that. I just don't give a tinkers damn about helping the euro (that was high horse....sorry)
Sounds like the Kimber Solo may make the 30 rounds and out list. I shot the actual Beretta version and thought it was a pile of junk.
Problem was, I LIKED the design and feel and balance of the gun. Belay that--I LOVED the design and feel and balance. My gun store guy brought out the Taurus version of the Beretta and I saw the frame mounted safety rather than a slide mounted safety and couldn't wait to play with the gun.
Long story short, I bought the gun, went straight to the office (even on a Saturday) and checked out 500 rounds of practice ammo and put the gun through its paces.
Over the next few years, it was my primary duty sidearm. Never had so much as a hiccup with it. And seeing as how DOJ agencies change issue ammo more often than John Swift Boat Kerry changed his mind and stance on issues, I ended up qualifying with that gun using a variety of ammo that included Nyclads, 147 grain subsonics (useless rounds, by the way), Winchester Silvertips, Glasers, Speer HPs, Remington +P JHPs, etc etc until we finally settled on the +P+ Federal 124 grain HydraShok in 1990.
NEVER had a failure to feed or failure to eject.
I'm an avid and prolific reloader as well as shooter and this Taurus 92 has over 100K rounds through it since 1987. It's ugly because it's seen so much duty wear and abuse, but it is absolutely 100% reliable.
NOW. . . with that said.
I have not bought a new Taurus product since 1990 (a Model 85, which we still have and have not had a lick of trouble with) except for a Judge--of which I am not impressed. It is a survival gun for the Cessna on long cross-country trips over unimproved territory. It came from the factory with a crooked front sight and a lousy finish, horrible trigger, etc. No QC whatsoever.
Another friend, former Marine, bought a Taurus 1911 and spent almost as much money "making it right" as he did buying the gun. Again, zero QC.
I agree with the sentiments of the poster who admonished Taurus for being intent on "coming out with 25 different and new guns every year rather than concentrating on upping the quality of the ones they have right now."
I have not advised anyone to purchase a new Taurus in over a decade. Given their present track record, I see no reason to change.
But, just wanted to set the record straight that not ALL Taurus firearms are junk the way the OP and a few others think they are.
I bought a PT145 a few years ago and it gave me massive trouble. Even the Taurus factory mags that I bought that got it to somewhat run had completely different followers than what the gun shipped with.
So flash forward about two years. I decided that maybe I wasn't being fair to Taurus. After all, anyone can make a lemon, right? So I bought a TCP738 and guess what? The trigger mechanism was broken within the first three mags fired.
That's why it irritates me so much when people say that anyone who trashes Taurus must be going on rumor because it can't possibly be firsthand knowledge.
Wow, I missed this Taurus bashing thread, how did that happen.
Sucks that you got a bad one. Buddy of mine has a PT92 that shoots like a dream and never had any issues out of it.
I have 3 Taurus guns and other than some break in issues with the 738 there are thousands of rounds through them, probably 10k between the three and never had any trouble.
Would I recommend a Taurus, well that depends. What makes them less desireable lately is that there is an ever shrinking gap between the price of Taurus and other guns in the past couple of years. I do think that much of their grief comes from trying too much new stuff. If you look at other manufacturers most of their issues come from new designs.
I have no trouble relying on the Taurus guns that I have just as easily as I do my Glock, XD, S&W, Kahr, Ruger, Keltec, Beretta, or Dan Wesson guns. Others may have different experiences, that is their call.