Taurus 24/7 Pro: Single Action/Double Action

Taurus 24/7 Pro: Single Action/Double Action

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    Taurus 24/7 Pro: Single Action/Double Action

    I am getting tired of the long hard double action only (DAO) trigger on my 9mm Kel-Tec P-11 and have been considering a switch to a 4" 1911 or the lighter DAO trigger of the Glock 23 in .40 cal or Springfield XD. While browsing 1911's on the Taurus website, I read about their 24/7 Pro pistol. I had been under the impression that the 24/7 was DAO, and magazine reviews from a couple of years ago support that. Now, the "Pro" variant seems to be single action, so you can carry it cocked and locked; or double action, so you can carry it in double action with the safety off (I might be wrong on that second point). Also, if a round fails to fire, instead of manually ejecting it, you have the option of striking it again with another double action pull of the trigger. The 24/7 Pro is cheaper than the typical 1911's and Glocks and is a good looking gun when optioned with a stainless slide.

    The 24/7 seems a worthwhile modern alternative to a short barrel 1911. Is anyone familiar with the 24/7 Pro's action and able to explain it me?


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    I think your a little mistaken......
    The 24/7 doesnt have a hammer, so it can't be carried "Cocked & Locked". The SA/DA of the (New) 24/7 is a single action trigger pull, because of the long crappy trigger pulls of the original. Another feature also is ,if the gun doesn't fire, it turns into a DA pull to allow a 2nd trigger pull in an attempt to fire the bullet in the chamber before a malfunction drill is necessary. I haven't tried one of the new 24/7 PRO pistols yet, but if it has a "true" SA trigger pull , I wouldn't recommend carrying with safety off.
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    I don't think I implied that a single action gun should ever be carried off safety. I was simply wondering if the user of the 24/7 Pro has the option of carrying it off safety in a mode where the first pull is double action followed by subsequent pulls in SA, and I think you've answered that. It's a mute point since I would prefer to carry in single action with safey on. I don't recall seeing any magazine articles on the new model; has anyone else?

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    I have fired one of the newer PRO models and I can honestly say it is much improved. In fact, I like it quite a bit.

    The trigger was still a little long for a SA trigger pull but nothing like the original loooong and hard trigger pull. I own and carry from time to time a PT-111 which was the gun that predated the 24/7 but has the same long and heavy trigger pull. I got used to it very quickly and I have no problem with it at all so I can see no reason not to reccomend the 24/7 especially now with the PRO model out.

    I have considered getting one of the .45's myself.
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    have had my PT 24/7 pro 45ACP for over a year and it has worked flawless. I had a Ruger P345 45 ACP but got rid of it because it felt like I was holding onto a brick with the grip. The trigger pull on the 24/7 is fantastic, it is to a point that I shot falling plates with good accuracy at 20 yds.
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    I just traded for two NIB 24/7 Pro 9mms. One blue, one stainless.
    I'm headed out this weekend to give them a try.

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    Love mine the SA triggers has a short take up but the trigger from there isn't bad the DA is the lightest DA trigger I have ever pulled on. I would recommend it to anyone thinking of getting one.

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    I have a Taurus 24/7 Pro 9mm. I love it. I have put a few thousand through it without a hiccup. The trigger pull boggled me for a few hundred rounds. There's a long idle pull then the last 3/8" sets the boom machine a rockin'. After I got the hang of the trigger it shoots accurately and smoothly.


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    I have the 24/7 pro in 9mm. I've put about 1000 rounds through it thus far without a problem. The manual safety is not an ambi, but being a lefty, I can take the safety off with my trigger finger on the draw. The sights take some getting used to and are not adjustable nor are they natural. Be ready to spend some ammo and a few quarters in the cuss jar!

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    I have the 24/7 PRO in .40 S&W. I've only had the opportunity to shoot 50 rounds through it (and those 50 were the cheap, crappy range ammo they made me use because they don't allow you to use your own ammo). I have high hopes for it... The long trigger take up is a little odd, but the release is nice and light. Recoil is a little hotter than my CZ100 (also in .40), probably due to the CZ having a ported barrel. The grips fit my hand really well, and the gun points very naturally for me.

    Because the CZ100 has a really long, long, loooong DAO trigger pull, I seem to shoot the Taurus a little better, despite the slightly increased recoil. I didn't notice anything special about the much vaunted 24/7 grips... maybe I was just too excited by finally getting to try out my new toy. The magazines hold fourteen rounds, and I could get all fourteen rounds in without too much effort. That makes me wonder if the mag springs are too light. If they are, and they ease up too much down the road, it may cause feeding problems. I also noticed the 24/7 has a very steep feed ramp, compared to the CZ100. It's highly polished, though, and the cheap crap flat nose range ammo fed without any issues at all. That may cause some bullet setback if you chamber a round, then unload the round, then chamber the same round a few times.

    For my first time out, I loaded up both magazines full - fourteen rounds each. I racked the slide to chamber a round, ejected the magazine, and topped it off. Foourteen plus fourteen plus one makes 29 rounds... more than enough for most expected self-defense scenarios. I ran a bullseye target out to seven yards, and fired all 29 rounds into it, at a pace of roughly one shot per second. This photo shows the first 29 rounds ever fired from my 24/7 PRO...

    All in all, it seems like enough of a keeper that I've ordered a quality IWB holster from K&D Holsters, and I have plans to make this my EDC weapon...

    Last edited by ceetee; September 16th, 2006 at 09:06 PM.

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    Oh, about the safety function... This is a DA/SA pistol, but with no decocker. Once you chamber a round, it's strictly single-action. The only times you'll ever see double-action with this pistol is if a primer fails to ignite, or during dry-fire practice.

    That said, the safety lever operates easily, but securely. It clicks on and off with no mushiness at all. If it continues to handle this way, I'll have no fear of carrying cocked and locked, and having the safety come off unexpectedly. The bonus of having a "second-strike" available is just icing on the cake, IMO...

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    I've owned Glocks, Sigs, XDs, CZs, Brownings, Walthers, Berettas, several different types of 9mms.

    So far the 24/7 is my favorite one of them all. Absolutely great gun and a wonderful value.

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    Mighty Glad to hear...

    All the strongly positive reviews on the Taurus 24/7 Pro. I had a serious & repeatedly bad experience with its previous "little brother", the Millinium .45 acp. After Taurus took it back (I refused to trade or sell it) I SWORE I would NEVER buy another Taurus product. Then a gun buddy of mine brought a Pro 24/7 .45 out to play. The trigger was terrific, the grip felt great, it ran every piece of ammo we dug-up, had all the right features, and generally out-shot & out-ran every pistol in my range bag. It made we wish I hadn't been so quick to dismiss Taurus products! Has ANYBODY had any NEGATIVE face-to-face (no rumor) experience with the 24/7 Pro? Because I really DO want to go buy one.

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    I've had my Taurus PT 24/7 for about a year now, too. It's not Pro, but given it has the exact same features. I believe it was probably the version right before they decided to rename the product line to Pro.

    I think people are kind of getting confused on the SA/DA part. It doesn't have a hammer but has the ability to do the newest catch phrase: "second strike capability". Basically every time you pull the trigger you hear the distinctive *click* and the firing pin is set off. Other than that it's a very, very good gun despite Taurus' reputation by many people.

    I should also note that the "ribber" grip that it has does not necessarily mean rubber ribber grip. All chambers below .45 have rubber ribber grips. The .45's have a ribber grip but it's part of the plastic (or whatever it's called) molding. Personally I like the no-rubber part when it comes to the grip on the .45 as it let's me get a more positive grip on the gun which definitely won't move when fired.

    Cheers.

    Edit! I also forgot to mention the safety, too. As ceetee said, it's very well made. When you flick it on it is very crisp and makes a clear *click* even when disengaged. It also has a loaded chamber indicator, the accessory rail, etc.
    Last edited by soundwave; September 27th, 2006 at 01:30 PM. Reason: mentioning the other features

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    Soundwave:

    When you rack the slide on yours, does it go into single action? There are two differences between the 24/7 and the 24/7 Pro...

    1. The 24/7 is double-action only. Each pull of the trigger is exactly the same. With the "Pro" version, retracting the slide about 1/4" cocks the striker. If the gun is unloaded, that first trigger-pull is single action. If you pull the trigger again, the trigger pull will be double action. Since there's no decocker, the only time you should ever have a double-action trigger is during dry-fire practice, or if a round fails to fire.

    2. The word "PRO" engraved on the slide...

    ghost tracker:

    There's a whole forum thread somewhere out there (not in this forum) regarding complaints with the .45 version of the 24/7. These mostly had to do with numerous failures-to-feed. I'm pretty sure they were all magazine-related, and that Taurus altered the .45 magazines to correct the problems. If I happen to find that thread, I'll get it to you somehow...

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