I don't get it? If I carry one of my 1911's (Ed Brown or Kimber), I load mag and rack the slide. I engage the safety. Pull the mag and pop in another round. I know that if I disengage the safety and pull trigger it goes boom.
When I carry S&W M&P9c, same idea. I load mag, rack slide, pull mag in add another. This one does not have a safety so I know if I just pull trigger goes Boom.
I never know if I have time to rack slides, plus lose a round as well.
When I had my Ruger KP95, I carried it in DA with Safety off. Being that DA is @ 10lbs, there is no way a ND could happen if its sitting in the holster.
If you have a good holster, no matter how you carry and how light the trigger pull is, there is no way a ND would happen without you knowing it.
I don't own any DA/SA, only two SA pistols. One Hi-Power and one 1911a1. Both are carried cocked and locked, ie.. safety on. Would not ever carry SA without safety.
I am new to the forum, so first let me say "HI, YA'LL".
I have a SIG 2022 that I carry, wherever it is legal. My model has a decocker and a thumb safety.
I carry decoced and safety on (a little habit that I kept from my service in the forces). My thought is that if the pistol has a safety, I might as well use it. Is there ever a "too safe"?
The rest is just practice. I practice every day... Draw and fire drill. It cost me $5 for the snap caps and 5-10 minutes a day, and it makes the whole process a simple muscle memory issue.
To carry cocked with no safety is not the way to go, and I don't think that was the idea behind SA in the first place.
Only my 1911s are carried in condition 1. Others are carried in condition 2 if they have a decocker such as my Beretta PX4.
I love my Glock 17, but I do not keep a round in the chamber since there is no way to decock a Glock without pulling the safety trigger. Call me old school. :>)
I carried a Walther PPK/S for three years. I carried it decocked with the safety off. That is just like a decocked SIG P226 is carried.
The first pull was like a DA revolver. The rest more like a 1911.
One of the things I liked about the PPK/S when I first started carrying was that I could load, unload, and clear the gun with the decocking lever in the safe position. My biggest concern is an ND while handling the gun. I now carry Glocks, LCP, P238 Cond 1, and the Shield with the safety off.
To say that's not a good idea .. is an understament. The problem is that you might shoot an inocent person while handling a gun like that. If it were just you at risk, that's your choice. I believe in Darwin propossed a theory regarding behaviors such as this.
certain things are designed to operate in a definite fashion. we may use words to make it sound like there are different methods--change the parameters/ change the meaning if a word.....but---that does not change the manor the item was designed to operate properly, safely'
DA/SA means the hammer is de-cocked on a chambered round and the triggers 1st pull has iit to operate as a double asction....like a revolver. after the 1st round is fired, the gun cycles and the hammer stays back like a 1911 with a round in the chamber. the trigger now operates as a single action 1911 and will continue to do so till you stop pulling it or the magazine runs out of ammo ( or it jams).
a Sig P239 is a excellent example of this design
to run this gun with a round chambered and the hammer back is begging for a ND and if a student tried it, id....
feel rather threatened being near them and the words id use would be very certain.
Here are a couple of links to how a Glock and Beretta operate. Its interactive and you can see the different safeties and how they interact with the different parts of the firearm. I am a firm believer that if you carry you should understand how your firearm operates and functions. Knowledge is the key to firearm safety. There is much more to a Glock safety sysytem than a two piece trigger. Genitron.com: Basics-Interactive Illustrated Glock Pistol Genitron.com: Basics-Interactive Illustrated Beretta Pistol
Thank you cjacob316 for posting this question. As someone who is new to carry, with my DA/SA P239, I was curious if it was at all common to carry with a round chambered and the hammer back since the gun has no actual safety. Personally, I decided that it would be best to use the DA first shot as the safety, but I am glad to see this decision reinforced.
On a DA/SA with no manual safety, I'm definitely going with the loaded chamber, de-cocked option. No way I'm putting my sig p220 in my appendix carry holster with one in the tube and the hammer cocked. (oh boy, the jokes we could insert here).
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