Safety of Winchester Ranger-T 127gr +P+ in carry guns (LC9 for me, Shield for wife)

Safety of Winchester Ranger-T 127gr +P+ in carry guns (LC9 for me, Shield for wife)

This is a discussion on Safety of Winchester Ranger-T 127gr +P+ in carry guns (LC9 for me, Shield for wife) within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Title says it all I think. Is this ammo safe in these guns?...

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    Safety of Winchester Ranger-T 127gr +P+ in carry guns (LC9 for me, Shield for wife)

    Title says it all I think.
    Is this ammo safe in these guns?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MP9NewMexico View Post
    Title says it all I think.
    Is this ammo safe in these guns?
    it depends on what the manufacturer says, refer to the docs that cam with your weapon

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    Oh yeah, I left that out. In both guns :)

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    I would always defer to the instruction manual when it comes to these kinds of things.

    AMMUNITION
    The RUGER® LC9TM pistols are chambered for the 9mm cartridge. Do not
    attempt to load any other cartridges into the magazine or chamber of the pistol.
    Do not use “+P+” ammunition. (See “NOTE on +P Ammunition” on pg. 12.)


    Note on +P Ammunition: Although the RUGER® LC9TM is capable of
    functioning with 9mm +P ammunition, a steady diet of +P ammunition will
    shorten the endurance life of the RUGER® LC9TM. You should never shoot 9mm
    +P+ ammunition in your RUGER® LC9TM. There are no SAAMI or CIP pressure
    limits on 9mm +P+ and use of this ammunition could result in serious injury.
    Do not use “+P+” ammunition.
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    I read that too, but I'm wo ndering if anyone has used it in their weapon?

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    Why would anybody need to use +p+ ammo in any gun. Godzilla is dead!!!
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    One thing is there are no SAMMI standards on what +P+ ratings are so two different manufacturers both producing a +P+ round could be vastly different in pressures.

    Why risk having your handgun end up as a facial implant?

    +P is as far as I'd push it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MP9NewMexico View Post
    I read that too, but I'm wo ndering if anyone has used it in their weapon?
    I ran PDX 124 gr +p in mine 200 rounds to test, makes it very snappy but ate it all, would not recomend nor want to shoot a steady diet of it but for SD ammo if that is what you want have at it...
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    It's should be safe in any modern firearm made for that caliber. I've used it in my M&P 9c, 6906, High Power & P226's with no ill effects.
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    I would not use it in ANY gun. There are no SAAMI standards of +P+. So you have no idea what kind of pressure the round is developing. Stick with what the gun manufacturer recommends, it not only is safer for your gun, but for you as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MP9NewMexico View Post
    I read that too, but I'm wo ndering if anyone has used it in their weapon?
    geez, how much more of a warning do you need?
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    Putting safety aside just for the moment, wouldn't most of the benefit from +P or +P+ be lost in a short barrel gun like the LC9, anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP9NewMexico View Post
    I read that too, but I'm wo ndering if anyone has used it in their weapon?
    First of all neither of the pistols you are speaking about have the barrel length needed to burn all the powder within a 9mm +P+ round. However for fun you can make them into a flame thrower if you used +P+ and shoot them at night! Take a look at the Ballistic testing I posted in the ammunition forum we used +P+ in those tests.

    Second only two manufacturer's that I know of will allow use of +P+ rounds and that is Glock and HK!

    Quote Originally Posted by mardet

    Why would anybody need to use +p+ ammo in any gun. Godzilla is dead!!!
    I beleive you are mistaken, the New and Improved Godzilla(s) walk the earth today. Take a normal person mix in a little PCP and voila, we have a modern day Godzilla! Please understand this is not to distract from the current Zombie problems in Florida or Canada!


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    The Ranger 127gr +P+ has an excellent performance record in LE shootings
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