"I don't believe in guns."

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    "I don't believe in guns."

    I was starting to wonder (based on some looks the better half had been sending my way) if I was becoming overly paranoid when talking through some home defense scenarios/strategies over the past few weeks but all is well now. All it took was something close to home. Her co-workers boyfriend (boxer/MMA type) was at a do-it-yourself car wash one block from where we used to live and was mugged at knife point by two assailants. Long story short he fought, got grabbed by one, while the other cut him on the arms, chest, and face. This dude is like a running punch line of bad decision making. Bad neighborhood, drives a flashy truck and $400+ in cash. Any how came across this article and thought it share worthy.

    https://www.hdaa.com/hdaa/a-frighten.../#.T-8r5RwW9Mg

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    I've seen the pitch before, but downloaded booklet.
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    fact is thousands of people have, with no training, used what is at hand in a moment of need and survived.

    training improves the odds of survivial
    training may eliminate the need for extreem force...the BG may back down when he realizes that the object of his desire
    actively does not desire him

    but the basice will to survive is a power not to be discounted because it is not been finely tuned or tested.
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    Well, I don't understand how someone can't believe in guns. They definitely exist, and are real tangible things.

    Its not like they are the tooth fairy.
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    She doesn't have to believe in guns. However, I hope she believes in murder, torture, rape, seeing ones children murdered, arson, and lots of other bad things, because whether she "believes" in them or not, they exist.

    If, after an incident like that, she still chooses not to own, train in, and prepare with a firearm that can decisively end a confrontation with a physically superior and most likely mentally twisted person, then she better start believing in Darwinism, because all she and her children will ever be are rungs on the food chain of the evil that exists out there.
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    I DO believe in guns....I've seen some.
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    Rope. Screwdriver. Matches. Shoes. Knife. Spare tire. Wrench. Firearm. Pretty useful stuff, each without a good substitute at the time it is needed.
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    I didn't read it because it doesn't belong here in a gun site. You might be looking for Mr. Obama's Webb page... good luck because the punk that wants your stuff will have one and might I add ...troll....?
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    I will be the first to admit, the title of this thread is a bit more than a loaded statement. {no pun intended} The article is, in my opinion, designed to educate people by example. I believe in using knowledge compiled from every credible source as much as possible in order to better trouble shoot and problem solve. The woman in the story {from the link provided} had a close call. While ENTITLED to her own beliefs, this experience may have awakened her to how fast a real threat can present itself. Which is a good thing! My point in posting this was show the importance and effectiveness of second or even third hand education, rather than risking a first hand one. Society is merely another facet of nature, and in the wild there are very few second chances. This experience landed close to home and seeing this article made me realize that perhaps others, rookies or not, may have come across the same issues with loved ones.

    I love our second amendment. I hold it dear. I understand how frustrating the anit-gun situation is, but shutting down the way you did Barstool does not represent the gun community well. "Never put both feet in your mouth at the same time,because you won't have a leg to stand on." Hmm......

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    Quote Originally Posted by barstoolguru View Post
    I didn't read it because it doesn't belong here in a gun site. You might be looking for Mr. Obama's Webb page... good luck because the punk that wants your stuff will have one and might I add ...troll....?
    I vote "Troll". Seems like several have been showing up lately.

    Those that don't believe in guns usually change their minds after criminal violence happens to them. If they don't....they are ready dead....brain dead.
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    I don't believe in no ghosts!!!!!!!!!!
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    ok, so a troll is someone that changes their point of view on firearms after becoming a victim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilot101 View Post
    ok, so a troll is someone that changes their point of view on firearms after becoming a victim?
    Not to me. Welcome to the forum. I think the title of the thread might have thrown some people off, but what do I know?
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    For those who didn't read the link, the OP is not stating that the title is his opinion. The link goes to an educational piece designed for people of that mindset.

    I had a co-worker recently tell me in a conversation about guns the same thing, followed by "I'm not a violent person." I replied, "Neither am I, that's why I carry a gun." I explained my position that I carried a gun to protect myself and my family from violence. That seemed to make a lot of sense to him.
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