What gun would you suggest for my son?

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    What gun would you suggest for my son?

    Hey guys,
    My teenage soon will be moving to "the city" in 2 months to start college. I'd like to get him a "truck gun". He already has a shotgun that can be used for home defense. After a number of shooting sessions, he likes the feel of my Springfield XD and 1911. I think a revolver would be an option as well after changing the grips; the ones I have did not fit his large hands very well. He thinks he'd prefer a semi-auto.

    My specs are:
    DAO trigger
    No external safety, except for possibly the grip safety on the XD; I have some concerns w/ a grip safety and a relatively newbie pistol shooter
    Non-compact frame
    9mm caliber
    Double stack mag
    RELIABLE action

    We went to a gun show today so he could handle different semi-auto's. What I found out is that he didn't like the feel in his hand of Glock or Beretta PX. The Ruger SR and S&W M&P were ok. What felt the best were the Walther PPQ, Springfield XD, 1911's, and (uggggghhhhh....) S&W Sigma and SD. There weren't any Sigs or H&K's available. We didn't look at Taurus. Neither one of us likes the PPQ's unusual mag release.

    By the process of elimination, the S&W Sigma/SD is the front runner. I've read all kinds of bad reviews about the Sigma, mostly due to it's long and gritty trigger. My understanding of the SD is that it's basically a Sigma w/ an improved trigger and some other upgrades. Unfortunately, there's not my info out there about the SD series. To complicate it further, I see that S&W has added the SD9 VE to their non-M&P lineup. It's not clear to me which, if any, of the Sigma or SD, have been discontinued from the line up.

    What would be your recommendation? Would you feel confident enough w/ the current Sigma, SD or SD VE purchase one or would you go w/ a different gun, even though it didn't fit his hand as well?

    Thanks.

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    There has been a lot of raving about the S&W M&P Shield -- comes in either 9mm of .40 caliber
    Gun Review: The Smith & Wesson M&P Shield | The Daily Caller

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    Ah... why not consider a Glock 19 or Glock 17? The "safe action" trigger on a Glock is not quite the same as a double action, but very close. Reliable, accurate, easy to shoot, easy to maintain, plethora of holsters, after market parts, sights, accessories, #1 law enforcement gun, the list goes on.
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    The Shield is not a double stack weapon.

    I had a Sigma for a while. It was reliable and decently accurate, but had a poor trigger. I know nothing of the SD series.

    I'm having a hard time recommending anything other than a Glock, and I'm not a Glock 'person' at all. Your son's situation and requirements sound like exactly what a Glock 17 or 19 could fill the role for.

    Something to consider: The Generation 4 (latest) Glocks have adjustable backstraps, which may help your son in the feel department. That being said, Glocks feel weird in the hand to me too. One of several reasons why I moved on to something else. However, mine was extremely accurate and reliable. Mine was also a Generation 3 and did not have an adjustable backstrap.
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    I'd also discuss the use of alternate forms of self defense such as pepper spray.
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    None..... I believe LA like Texas you must be 21 posses a hand gun.
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    i would like to suggest u. spoiler pistol is most attractive and light weighted gun and its totally automatically and u can used it very easy and u easily open it and repair it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowman View Post
    There has been a lot of raving about the S&W M&P Shield -- comes in either 9mm of .40 caliber
    Gun Review: The Smith & Wesson M&P Shield | The Daily Caller

    S&W M&P Shield 9mm Review - YouTube
    No reason to go for a small gun when he will not carry it. The Shield shoots softly but the muzzle does come up more than a full size gun.

    I thought the sigma/sd were Glock twins so surprised to hear he didn't like the Glock but approved the S& W.

    How about a Ruger GP100? Big easy shooter with more than enough power. Limited capacity vs a semi but fun to shoot, you can hunt with it, chamber cheap .38 for practice and dead reliable.

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    You might want to do some checking before investing in the gun. Not sure what minimum age in LA is to possess a handgun, but it appears CC minimum age is 21. Also if he is staying on campus, guns (handguns/rifles/shotguns) are not allowed. In fact from what I saw on Handgunlaw.us they are prohibited within 1000 feet of campus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john5 View Post
    None..... I believe LA like Texas you must be 21 posses a hand gun.
    Wrong ,you must be 21 to buy a handgun and handgun ammunition,a family member can gift you a handgun,Tx allows 18 yoa serving in the military to possess a CHL.
    I would recommend either the M&P9 full size or compact,or the XD9 service 4" the grip safety on the XD releases with a normal grip and I have had 0 problems in several thousand rounds and 6 years of shooting one
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    The S&W SD is a best bang for the buck in my opinion, it's new trigger design is miles ahead of the Sigma and APEX Tactical even makes a trigger spring kit that further tunes the trigger quite nicely.

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    I'm not downgrading other makes and models of guns...but I love the feel and performance of my Ruger P95. I too didn't like the feel of the Glock....

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    the full size XDM is very comfortable and accurate. I don't have much experience with the original XD but I like the XDM a lot. I'll be getting one in 45acp soon. 20rds as well in case he goes up against a bus load of bg's.
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    I'm 65. I purchased my first hand gun (Gen 4 G 19) last year and got my CC permit. Fantastic weapon. Easy to carry and 15 rounds of Ranger +p is a good combination, I think.
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    If a Glock is out of the question, I'd recommend the M&P. The aftermarket is excellent for these guns. I just don't see the appeal of a Sigma.
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