Stepping off the "Pocket 9mm" Merry-Go-Round...Hello revolver!

Stepping off the "Pocket 9mm" Merry-Go-Round...Hello revolver!

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    Stepping off the "Pocket 9mm" Merry-Go-Round...Hello revolver!

    Finally got a chance to pick up my .38 Spl Ruger LCR with factory-mounted Crimson Trace Lasergrips. Got a Desantis Superfly pocket holster for it, and with the larger anti-print panel from my G26's Superfly, the LCR disappears into my shorts pockets. I have not even taken it to the range yet, but I have a feeling that it will relegate my PM9 to the safe.

    My current PM9 is my third attempt to get one running to my liking, and my fourth try with Kahr pistols (my first was an early P9). This particular PM9 has caused me to suffer through:

    * Consistent nose dive jams with the 7-rd mag, which Kahr blames on a "too tight grip." Their solution was to swap the 7-rd mag for a 6-rd one.

    * One mag that will drop free, while the other does not.

    * Nose down jams with 147 gr Gold Dot ammo, even with the 6-rd mags.

    * A replacement recoil spring that would not fit in the gun until Kahr advised me to snip it shorter (!).

    What really irks me is that I purchased this PM9 directly from Kahr via their instructor sales program. You would think that they would pay extra special attention to guns that are sold to those who instruct others.

    I have spent entirely too much time in the last year proofing this gun, instead of actually training. Breaking it in, having issues, trying to diagnose the issues, trying different brands of ammo, etc. Too much wasted time and money.

    We have three LCPs in our family. One had to go back to Ruger twice to get running right. Since then, it has been as reliable as the other two. I'm not sure why the .380s generally seem to run well, but the small pocket 9mm's out there seem to have more than their fair share of issues - based on my experience and what I read and hear from others. (My definition of a "small pocket 9mm" is one smaller than a G26 - guns like the PM9/CM9, DB9, etc)

    I decided that I've reached a point that I just want a gun that will work, with no drama or undue fussiness. I'm hoping the LCR is that gun. It will fill the niche between my LCPs and my G26.

    I've traditionally favored semi-autos and am well aware of the relative merits of both semis and revolvers. Based on my personal experience, I just don't think it is possible to make a truly drama-free pocket-sized 9mm.

    The final proof will be in the shooting, of course. But I have a fairly good idea where I'm heading...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thmtn View Post
    . Based on my personal experience, I just don't think it is possible to make a truly drama-free pocket-sized 9mm.
    I agree. That's the main reason why the G26 is my primary. If I wanted something smaller I would probably for with a LCR with .38 +p's.
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    Never have been a fan of pocket autos. A small revolver has so much going for it. Glad you found something that will work for you.
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    I too recently made the switch to carrying an LCR. I didn't have the teething issues with my LC9 that you did with your Kahr, but I wish that I had discovered the simplicity of carrying a revolver earlier.
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    Hopefully, the LCR will be the right pocket carry for you. It has a great trigger. The only issue that I've ever seen with it is small incidents of "flame cutting" after a small amount of rounds.
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    Congrats on the LCR. I've never had a need for any sort of pocket carry gun, but if I were to develop such a need, the LCR would be the first place I would look.

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    My main carry now is a SW 642 after the auto 9 thing for me also...
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    I love my snub!
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    My 642 has been a faithful pocket gun. Of course, the Kahr problems are clearly all YOUR fault..... (wink, wink)
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    I'm on the same phase. Sold my Kel tec and Kahr. Then turned around and bought a Ruger SP101. Had problems with both of them when I first got them, sent them back and they ran great. Just always had that thought of them when i first got them that always left a uneasy thought in my mind. I have an LCR in 357 and love that one too. In fact my wife shoots very well with 38's and she's a beginner
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    Be sure you lube it and dry fire it 1,000 times before you shoot it. Break it in with 400 rounds and shoot it like you stole it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thmtn View Post
    My current PM9 is my third attempt to get one running to my liking, and my fourth try with Kahr pistols (my first was an early P9). This particular PM9 has caused me to suffer ...
    You too? Multiple PM9's and P380's didn't cut it for me. Sad, given the compelling size/weight combination. Ah, well.

    A decent revolver's hard to beat, from the reliability standpoint alone.
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    It was a Kahr P40 that inspired my 638. They may manufacture autos but they're great wheel gun salesmen.
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    Congrats 10thmtn. I'm sure you'll be as happy with yours as I am with mine; although my LCR has given way to my S&W638 due to ergos and overall size. IMO, you just can't argue with the reliability of a revolver for everyday carry, around town and around the house it's a hard to beat firearm. If I'm heading into the city, I like to gun up with my Glock or one of my other autos due the whole round count gang thing, but even then with the addition of the laser, one well placed shot with the .38 special is a good remedy for the would be thug. Enjoy your new revolver, IMO you made a excellent move, one I doubt you will ever regret.
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